ok, first off please no flames.... I just got back into town and did a search and could not find an answer to this, so if there was one I'm sorry. How loud is the race pipe as compared to an exhaust. I've read that it makes the car significantly louder but how much. If you just install the race pipe with the stock exhaust will it be as loud or louder then just an exhaust? I would love the HP gains but do not want my car much louder then it is now, a little more rumble would be ok. I have the SRT and love the sound, but I would not want it to get too much louder. I have always held off on the exhaust because the gains did not seem like much for the trade off in increased noise levels, but the race pipe looks so good. Is there an increase in sound at idle or is it mainly at higher RPMs.