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Once again, I need an aligment cuz of the f'in MI roads..

Last time, it took me a long time to find a shop that can do an aligment.


So, this time, I got up early, 7:00 and wen to that shop. I waited a half hour, and they guy says: "We borrowed our extensions to another shop"

(this is already about 20 miles out of the way), so I go to the shop that has the tools. another 5 miles out of the wya.

"Our sensors are broke".. great. They tell me another place has the drive on stuff and its a drive on. I go there, another weird ass path out of the way.

"Our machine is a little old, and the sensors can't see each other cuz the car is too low" WTF!!!!

So, they tell me there is a shop that is closer to my house, new equipiment, etc.

"We don't have the right grips...it'll either scratch the lip, or inside and they don't want to take a risk"

MOTHER FER!!!!!!!!! I have the worst god damn luck with cars. I just want to drive it off a cliff. However, I did finda shop that does it manually....a mere $400 for an aligment. WTF?

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Detroit sucks.
 

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I went to Harvey's tire shop and he did the front alignment and balanced one tire for $32.

Harvey was the lower half guy at the Goodyear store for 25 years till they sold the store, and opened up his own shop. He's the only guy that I have let do any work on my cars for almost 10 years. You need to find a guy like that, honest and experienced, with good equipment, and stick with him for all your lower half work.
 

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I just got an alignment last Thursday. I brought it to Lexus b/c I thought they might give me a good deal. Nope, $150 for one :x . I asked the guy why it costs 150 for a 45 minute job when their hourly shop rates are only 100/hour. He just stared and couldnt answer my question. When I went to get it back they had already washed it (I didnt want), but the wash guys liked my car so much they waxed it for me :D
 

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To be honest......a lexus dealership is the best thing for the IS300 because of it's many adj points. You may may be able to find a shop that does an all 4 wheel alignment for $99 or less. Maybe a true race shop.
The dealership charges $99.
 

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Mine is at the dealer right now getting it's post l-tuned spring install alignment. Actually it's getting an adjustment to the alignment they did yesterday. An FYI for dealer alignements - When I got home and looked at the print out I found they had set the camber in front to 0.0 deg. and +0.1 deg. left and right.

When I took it back today to get them to dial back in the negative camber of the basic design specs I had to get with the shop manager to convince him I really wanted it that way. Because 90% of their customers are, well exactly what you see behind the wheel of 90% of the Lexus out there, they try to stand the wheel up as straight as possible to limit tire wear.

After talking to the manager he agreed to set it up at -0.5 no problem, as long as I understood what that meant. :)

I'll give Lexus dealers one point. They handsdown give the best customer service anywhere in any industry. (at least Scottsdale Lexus in Phoenix does)

And yes, if you're wondering, I could feel a difference yesterday with it set neutral up front. Not enormous, but it definitely was not as crisp.
 

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Update: Just picked her up and the printout shows what I felt on the way home. They did a great job. Both front sides exactly at -0.5 deg. camber and that immediately fixed the feel. It also brought all the other alignment specs right onto the numbers. (caster and toe) If anyone wants I'll post the exact final measurements.

They did put on my invoice that it had originally been aligned to factory spec to "minimize tire wear" but they realigned it with the neg. camber per my request and that I know this may cause additional tire wear. Sounds like they get way to many people freaking out on tire wear. My csr was telling me that he's had multiple customers tell him to buy them a new set of tires at 15,000 miles when they wore out. I guess they couldn't be troubled to read that big ass sticker that was on the window when they bought it that told them the car has performance tires.
 

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What about Luxury Motorworks? Do they do camber adjusments and other alignment wizardry?
 

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Does anybody know of a speed shop in Chicago that can balance and align my car??? I think my ride height is not even, so I might need scales to check it out.



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Go to NTB...it's like 59.99

They did a great job on mine and the guy let me hang out and watch....pretty cool how alignment machines work.
 

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Wino_II said:
Go to NTB...it's like 59.99

They did a great job on mine and the guy let me hang out and watch....pretty cool how alignment machines work.
If my car gets done, and they're still open, I'm there!
 

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mattssi said:
Wino_II said:
Go to NTB...it's like 59.99

They did a great job on mine and the guy let me hang out and watch....pretty cool how alignment machines work.
If my car gets done, and they're still open, I'm there!
that's fine, i can direct you to the one I went to in Rockville, MD. May be super busy on a saturday tho.
 

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Wino_II said:
mattssi said:
Wino_II said:
Go to NTB...it's like 59.99

They did a great job on mine and the guy let me hang out and watch....pretty cool how alignment machines work.
If my car gets done, and they're still open, I'm there!
that's fine, i can direct you to the one I went to in Rockville, MD. May be super busy on a saturday tho.
They'll be willing to hook an out-of-towner up ;)
 

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Update: Just picked her up and the printout shows what I felt on the way home. They did a great job. Both front sides exactly at -0.5 deg. camber and that immediately fixed the feel. It also brought all the other alignment specs right onto the numbers. (caster and toe) If anyone wants I'll post the exact final measurements.
Please do post them. I'm doing research on doing some simple adjustment myself. Thanks.
 

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Completed alignment measurements (after I got the dealer to bring it in to neg. camber specs):

Left Front:
  • Camber = -0.5°
    Caster = 6.1°
    Toe = 0.9 mm
Right Front:
  • Camber = -0.5°
    Caster = 6.3°
    Toe = 1.0 mm
Front Total Toe = 1.9 mm
Front Steer Ahead = 0.00°

Left Rear:
  • Camber = -1.2°
    Toe = 1.2 mm
Right Rear:
  • Camber = -1.0°
    Toe = 1.7 mm
Rear Total Toe = 2.9 mm
Thrust Angle = -0.02 deg.
 
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