i'm surprised that none of you guys has said anything about the program on speedvision about the SC430 test drive and the 2002 IS300 manual test drive jimmy vasser from cart and the host were racing the SC430 and the2002 IS300 around some track ...the IS actually kept up!!! jimmy vasser had nothing but good things to say about the IS as far as i could tell wheels are the same size and horsepower is the same as well as torque...the nav looked pretty cool....mr vasser said that the tranny was smooth and he loved the power throughout the powerband : ) as far as looks the car has no exterior changes and is due out in september ....it was a silver in case anybody wanted to know ...he said he got it up to 126 on the banked track and he also said that the car handles very well at high speeds : ) he said that it actually "sucked down" on the banked track the program was on at 10:30 pm eastern it was "speedvision showcase"....oh yeah he liked the sc430 too lol...there was no mention of 1/4 mile times or 0-60 times for the manual...i had the idea that the show was lexus' idea they had some company spokesman there pimpin the two cars ........does it piss anybody else off that this car has no problem breaking the wheels loose in reverse but it is very hard to break them loose going forward ?...oh and another thing ...traction control doesn't work in reverse ...lol CIAO for now