Thank you TEG, you know, if you look at my initail post, you would see that it wasnt all that obnoxious and "California" like as "torque?" said. I still think it was a dumb question, because really, unless you are so rich and frankly dont care what you are buyin, who would not test drive the car before you buy it.... duh. The only reason i insulted back, was because he made a really, un 41year old remark of, must be those californians. Just wait till you here what we think of y'all out here. YOu know i respect elders, just not idiot like you (torque), but i totally respect TEG and just about everything he has to say. So I think you should take your Nerse ass off this forum and buy a b'mer, because you seem like the type that would.