[Agent Smith]

TEG - I recall you posted some sales figures for Lexus a while back, and it is probably very early in the game but do you have any sales numbers of CL S Types vs IS 300 sales...I am curious which car/brand is more successful in the eyes of the consumer.

I hope you got the juice.

Agent Smith Out

 

[ISFAN]

Come one that is a no brainer. Acura is no where close in overall sales to LEXUS. Lexus could be selling turd mobiles and still out seel Acura!

Oh no, crap, I hear Geoff comming, I am outa here!

 

[siLveR_iS300]

but they have a nice cheap integra. i've seen a lot of those on the street.


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[geoff]

hey hammerheads

i think agent is looking for is300 vs. cl-s specifically.

carpoint.com does not have 2001 cl sales volume data yet.

 

[acuracing]

there are a million integras out there. i think that one car alone could help put acura over lexus. maybe not.. well.. i dunno.. ill leave it up to those with the cold hard fats to figure it out..

mike

 

[geoff]

Originally posted by acuracing:
there are a million integras out there. i think that one car alone could help put acura over lexus. maybe not.. well.. i dunno.. ill leave it up to those with the cold hard fats to figure it out..

mike

i think that in terms of gross sales volume, lexus would have the edge

no accounting for some folks' tastes

kiddin...relax u monkeys

 

[viggen]

In terms of sales this year, Lexus is kicking Acura's butt. The IS is now outselling the integra on a month-to-month basis. The RX is the 2nd best selling luxury car in America (Deville is #1):
http://www.ai-online.com

 

[HIBBoyScott]

Well, in terms of overall worth, Toyota is worth ~154B. Honda is worth ~34B. And for more comparisons: GM ~30B. Cisco ~350B. Microsoft 291B.

 

[geoff]

toyota is a massive organization

lexus outselling acura doesn't surprise me at all...every other car in these parts is an rx300

 

[Timothy Coln]

I should hope that the IS300 is outselling the Integra. Look how long the Integra has been out!!! The new Integra will be a 2002 model? That means current Integra was out from 1994-2001 (8 years).Thats two model lives for typical Honda cars. After 1998 I thought a new 1999 model would come out and it didn't. I think most people became sick of the model. I dont know but I think for the last 2-3 years they should have changed the integra to have the Japanese styled lights. I think it would have increased sales. But who knows. At least in Japan people were able to have the choice to get the round lights or 1 piece light. But I think that sales on the new model will increase when it come out in 2002. Its cheap and will be a nice car.

 

[TEG]

I don't have any of that info...

All I know is this -
Lexus planned to sell around 9,000 IS300s between July-December 2000
and about 25,000+ in 2001

I am sure that the Acura Integra sells many more since it is a lower cost, higher volume target market.

I don't think Lexus plans to sell more IS300s than BMW sells 3 series - just take a chunk (say 1/3) of their market over time.

I have no idea about the CL-S. Maybe sort of similar to the IS300???

 

[chiem]

Lexus must have sold more than 9000 ISes already. Mine was #6000-something, and I got it less than 1.5 months after they started selling. What # was yours TEG ?

--k

[From TEG: Mine is number 118XX - (from the last 5 digits of the VIN) - but the 9000 sales number was for USA only - the VIN#s might include models sold in other countries like Canada/Mexico/etc. ]

[This message has been edited by TEG (edited October 13, 2000).]

 

[IS300#1]

chiem,
how do you find out the # on your vehicle?

 

[S38]

Take out the RX and Lexus is behind Acura and BMW in terms of car sales. Why is it people get so excited about these SUV's?

 

[cardinal_creek]

Originally posted by IS300#1:
chiem,
how do you find out the # on your vehicle?

Last six digits of your VIN -

 

[calbear]

I got my IS about 2 weeks ago and the last six digits of my VIN is 014158. So Lexus is way over 9000 mark.

 

[ISFAN]

Originally posted by cardinal_creek:
Last six digits of your VIN -

Last six of mine are 008768, so I guess I am close to the 9k units!

 

[TEG]

Even though the VINs are over 10,000 now - there may be less than 9,000 IS300s in the USA - it is possible that some of the VIN#s are going to other countries...

 

[DonCorleone]

a couple of those cars have got to be test vehicles and cars sent out to magazines...

 

[viggen]

There are also some IS300s in certain "less-than-desirable" colors that are still sitting on dealer lots.