Rode in 2002 5-speed, its quick

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conan

Discussion Starter · Aug 3, 2001

I was able to go to the midwest distribution office today for a test ride in a red 5-speed. I can't put down any times, but I swear it is a lot quicker then the 325i, which I checked out about 3 weeks ago. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, the rear end sat and we moved. Changes lanes like a laser.

Those in the East whom are curious when you get your 5-speeds; around the 10th. Get this, Lexus ships the East coast cars a week ahead of time so all shipments arrive basically at the same time.

Midwest fans, auto here next week, then the 5-speed, then the sportcross. 5-speed coming only in leather escaine, NO navigation; everything else including spoiler. One per dealer for first month. Auto, no spoiler!

Lexus will have ground effects packages and such, around Christmas through their in-house tuning.

Supercharger in the planning stage. Lexus is considering putting the supercharger that is used in the Toyota Avalon into the IS300.

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SophieSleeps

· #2 · Aug 3, 2001

Uh, there's a supercharger in the Toyota Avalon?

Thanks for the info by the way.

JW

· #3 · Aug 3, 2001

Avalon_engine = Solara_engine = Camry_engine = ES300_engine = RX300_engine = Highlander_engine = 1MZ-FE

So in theory, the Solara S/C can be used in any of these vehicles.

Similarly, the 4Runner and Tacoma S/C could fit in the the old ES300 and Camry (VZ engine family).

Originally posted by SophieSleeps:
Uh, there's a supercharger in the Toyota Avalon?

Thanks for the info by the way.

Watcher

· #4 · Aug 3, 2001

Aren't the S/C configs different between V6's and I6's? V6 S/C's won't work on I6. I could be wrong.

Todd

· #5 · Aug 3, 2001

The TRD superchargers for the Tacoma/Camry/Solara/ will not work on an IS. The TRD supercharger replaces the intake manifold on these engines. The V6 and the IS I6 couldn't be any more different. Sounds like someone's full of , ... hmmm better not.

Turbo would be the best solution for this engine. All the Supra TT technology is already out there.

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conan

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 3, 2001

Ok, help me out. I asked the question about modifying the IS300 somewhat like the M class or AMG series. He told me that Lexus is looking into using a supercharger. Now I could of sworn he said the Avalon (I was surprised too SophieSleeps because I had no idea), but I of course might of heard what I thought I heard and not what vehicle he actually said. Whatever, it is a supercharger that Toyota is currently using. So if anybody knows about Toyota superchargers, please feel free to enlighten everybody.

IS300GTE

· #7 · Aug 3, 2001

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Originally posted by conan:

Those in the East whom are curious when you get your 5-speeds; around the 10th. Get this, Lexus ships the East coast cars a week ahead of time so all shipments arrive basically at the same time.

IS300GTE

· #8 · Aug 3, 2001

ok, he could still be telling you the truth on the camry/avalon supercharger with the IS. the camry/avalon charger sits as part of the intake manifold, and is right before the 6 runners split to each individual cylinder. if they used that supercharger and redesigned an IS manifold around the charger, it would work fine, and can put out some decent horsepower figures for a 3l motor (380-camry) it will just have more torque with the IS motor.

Originally posted by conan:
Ok, help me out. I asked the question about modifying the IS300 somewhat like the M class or AMG series. He told me that Lexus is looking into using a supercharger. Now I could of sworn he said the Avalon (I was surprised too SophieSleeps because I had no idea), but I of course might of heard what I thought I heard and not what vehicle he actually said. Whatever, it is a supercharger that Toyota is currently using. So if anybody knows about Toyota superchargers, please feel free to enlighten everybody.

Risk3233

· #9 · Aug 3, 2001

It's possible that the design paramters and type of unit (i.e. roots blower) are going to be similar for TRD's choice for the IS s/c. I agree that it won't be identical given the V6 vs. I6 engine design.

The roots type blowers possess broad, usable power bands and when kept under lower boost levels fairly reliable. I anticipate that TRD will utilize this type of design given their past experience with this type of product.

serch

· #10 · Aug 3, 2001

If they use the SC from the solara, I would be very disappointed. I would rather see the turbo used since the engine is the same(basically) as the Supra TT.. I am curently a Solara owner and will not buy the SC, because after all the hype about it giving us 260 hp, it is a crock the most anyone has seen is around 215 or a little more, It's not worth spending the 3000 dollars for 15-20 hp at least that is my opinion... And area 51 dave can give you the specifics on that, he showed the dyno tests between the IS300 and the solara and the output of the solara sucked.....

Risk3233

· #11 · Aug 3, 2001

I agree that the TRD unit in the Solara was ultra conservative in its performance output. IMO TRD placed reliability at the forefront of its initial forced induction offering.

However, for the IS, TRD now has all the growing pains and the experience w/their prior FI products. Hopefully, they will create a more performance oriented s/c unit for the IS.

Also, the IS community can be characterized as "performance oriented" consumers as opposed to the consumers of the Solara. I hope TRD gears their products for the IS w/this in mind. BTW I'm not implying that Solara owners as a whole are not performance oriented drivers.

A roots blower can be designed to create lots of power (i.e. NHRA drag cars) so the thought that large power can only be made in turbos is misplaced. TRD will do the delicate balance of creating a product that is reliable and capable of being covered by a warranty vs. satisfying the aftermarket performance community and its need for added power numbers.

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SuperHell

· #12 · Feb 5, 2002

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On 2001-08-03 12:17, serch wrote:
If they use the SC from the solara, I would be very disappointed. I would rather see the turbo used since the engine is the same(basically) as the Supra TT.. I am curently a Solara owner and will not buy the SC, because after all the hype about it giving us 260 hp, it is a crock the most anyone has seen is around 215 or a little more, It's not worth spending the 3000 dollars for 15-20 hp at least that is my opinion... And area 51 dave can give you the specifics on that, he showed the dyno tests between the IS300 and the solara and the output of the solara sucked.....
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You mess up the figures, 215 is FWHP, not flywheel, so its not 3000 dollars for 15-20 hp
stock flywheel hp = 200, after s/c = 276, so its 76 flywhee hp for 3000

Sentinel

· #13 · Feb 6, 2002

ive heard the camry with the trd sc could put down mid 300s for hp easy with a diffrent pulley.
Sentinel

Fishiest1

· #14 · Feb 6, 2002

WAIT WAIT!!!

So the TRD SC might work in an RX???

I have an RX too,, that would be great!!

SuperHell

· #15 · Feb 7, 2002

you can be the first one to try putting it on rx...
RX got vvt-i or vvtil, but the s/c is for non vvti engine..
good luck on it

SuperHell

· #16 · Feb 7, 2002

On 2002-02-06 00:24, Sentinel wrote:
ive heard the camry with the trd sc could put down mid 300s for hp easy with a diffrent pulley.
Sentinel

Pulley Size | Max Boost | Max HP @6000 rpm* | Max Torq. @4400 rpm*
2.00 10.00 343 373
2.20 9.00 332 362
2.40 8.00 320 350
2.60 7.00 310 339
2.80 6.00 298 316
3.00 5.00 287 294
3.20 4.00 276 271
3.40 3.00 264 260
3.60 2.00 253 249

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Sentinel

· #17 · Feb 7, 2002

its a shame the camry chasis is lacking.

eortiz

· #18 · Feb 7, 2002

I know this is an IS 300 forum but I also have a Camry and I am shocked at what SuperHell put up. Is this true!? Just kidding. So I can buy the TRD SC and just change the pulley? Where can I get a replacement pulley? My apologies again for taking yout time when this is an IS300 forum. Can anyone direct me to a Camry performance forum? TIA.

blueIS

· #19 · Feb 7, 2002

*cough* *cough* status: *cough* dead old topic *cough*

SuperHell

· #20 · Feb 11, 2002

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On 2002-02-06 19:42, eortiz wrote:
I know this is an IS 300 forum but I also have a Camry and I am shocked at what SuperHell put up. Is this true!? Just kidding. So I can buy the TRD SC and just change the pulley? Where can I get a replacement pulley? My apologies again for taking yout time when this is an IS300 forum. Can anyone direct me to a Camry performance forum? TIA.
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http://www.partsforyourcar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFYC&Product_Code=pb106

that's for 7psi pulley

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