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I know there are many different brands of Radar/Laser Detectors out there, price ranging between $150 - $800. However, which one(s) are more effective? Since I don't know much about "detectors" I need some suggestions. Brand? Type? Price? Where can I purchase?

Are there other devices more effective than Detectors?

Thanks in Advance.
 

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Originally posted by Philharmonic:
I know there are many different brands of Radar/Laser Detectors out there, price ranging between $150 - $800. However, which one(s) are more effective? Since I don't know much about "detectors" I need some suggestions. Brand? Type? Price? Where can I purchase?

Are there other devices more effective than Detectors?

Thanks in Advance.

Expensive, but worth every penny.
www.valentine1.com

Directional arrows, bogey counters, and superior range is what seperates this radar detector from every other radar detector.

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absolutely agreed!

Originally posted by MarkA4:
Valentine 1 hands down IMO
 

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dunno much about them, but do know that valentine 1 is by far the only one you need to get.

it's pricey, but I heard it is far superior to other models priced close to it.
 

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this is the same craig peterson, author of radartest.com

The Top 20 Reasons to be Concerned about Craig Peterson's December '95
Automobile Radar Detector Test.

1) Mr. Peterson writes [Re: changes in technology]: "... making the nearly
four-year-old Valentine rather antediluvian in comparison".


Mr. Peterson's description of the Valentine One ignores continuous
improvements since its introduction, including widening Ka-band coverage
from 1 GHz to 2.6 GHz and the addition of the laser option. Further, older
units purchased without these advances were eligible to have them added
through an upgrade program -- the only such program in the industry.


The Valentine Research philosophy is one of continuous improvement and
upgrade instead of continuous model change and obsolescence. We think
planned-obsolescence is "antediluvian".

2) Mr. Peterson says he "devised" some radar tests in a "cost-no-object
shootout".


His radar tests were "devised" in such a way that the K-band straightaway
"shootout" ended in a tie when the test ran out of room. This is like
testing sports cars for top speed using a speedometer limited to 85 MPH. A
Yugo and a Ferrari would both top out at 85.


Car and Driver has tested Valentine One for K-band range in the October
'92, April '94 and September '95 issues and found it vastly superior to
other makes of detectors.


When tests are "devised" that hide major differences in performance, the
author's opinion becomes more important than the objective qualities of the
detectors being tested.

3) Mr. Peterson writes [Re: Passport 4600]: "And audio alerts arrived with
fully 90 decibels of authority, a whopping 10 decibels louder than the
Valentine."


This claim is just plain wrong. We measured a Passport 4600 and a Valentine
One with a Bruel & Kjaer Model 2230 precision integrating sound level meter
and a Kustom Falcon radar gun. The Valentine One measured 90 decibels and
the Passport measured 84 decibels. The Valentine One is 6 decibels louder,
not "a whopping 10 decibels" weaker than the Passport 4600.


This is "a whopping" 16 decibels of error. It is easy to hear that the
Valentine One is louder by ear, without a sound pressure meter.

4) Mr. Peterson writes [Re: Passport 4600]: "In the straightaway test in
city mode it blew away all the others against X-band radar, registering
more than two and a half miles of detection range, a useful 8000-foot
margin over the Valentine, placed in its second [Advanced] logic mode."


This comparison leaves out a critical point. The Passport 4600 has no city
mode! Therefore, the Passport had to be tested in its only mode -- the
equivalent of highway mode. No wonder it did as well in the "city-mode"
test as in the X-band "highway" test. It also tied for last place in the
"urban loop" X-band false-alarm test.

5) Mr. Peterson writes [Re: Uniden LRD6399SW]: "Uniden's city-mode alarm
strategy is not to chop sensitivity, as do its competitors. Instead, the
audio alerts stay mute until the third of five LEDs comes alive, denoting a
much closer proximity to the radar. ... We'd advise you to keep a sharp eye
on the Uniden while driving in town lest the silent flashing LED go
unnoticed until it's too late."


These statements contradict themselves. If the sensitivity is not
"chopped", why would one be required to "keep a sharp eye" on the unit lest
it become too late? In the X-band city-mode straightaway test, the Uniden
is given full credit for the range obtained by watching for the "silent
flashing LED" instead of waiting for an audio alarm. Why?


Mr. Peterson is not as lenient toward the Valentine One. If he had used the
Logic mode (instead of Advanced Logic) in the city-mode X-band straightaway
test, and if he had followed the procedure allowed for the Uniden, the
Valentine One would have walked away from the entire field.


As can be seen fr
 

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I've never used a Valentine 1, but I've got a BEL detector that I received as a birthday present. I don't remember the model number, but it was like their 2nd best model. The thing sucked in my opinion. It had cool features, but all it ever detected were supermarkets and fast food stores. It never went off for any cop that I saw.

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I have the Whistler 2200 remote with the optional rear sensor. It may not rank as #1, but trust me those test are subjected. The whistler 2200 is a nice that DOES work and it actually works pretty well. It does false at times as do all detectors. The biggest down fall is the green LED display. If you mounted on the or in the dash I'm sure you would have a washout problem during the day. I mounted mine to the factory raer view mirror mount and it is great. Tests are just that, tests. Real world use is what matters and I give the 2200 a thumbs up, especially at 210 for a remote system. See my pics located in signature for a pic of the unit installed.
 

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are there any good models that physically install in the vehicle. perhaps a sensor under the grill with a display on the dash? i've owned a couple of models and i really don't like the wires and clutter. if they don't make one, i guess i'll have to do what i have to do.
 

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merlin3008;
Escort, Bel, Whistler, and K40 all make remote mount units. I have the Whistler in my vehicle.
 

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Valentine 1, no question about it!!!
I had mine for 3+ years. Got 1 ticket (got too careless).
Trust me, it is worth every penny. I can't even count how many times it saved my tail.
Here's recent one:
Driving in PA. One of those boards they put on the road transmits K-band signal. I slow down. As I pass it, V1 shows signal coming from the back. 10 secs later I get same K-band warning from the front. Immediately slow down. 20 secs later, there's a cop hiding in the bushes with his K-band radar.
Any other radar detector, and I'd think it was the same board transmitting.

Summary:
V1 is the only one.
 

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Originally posted by merlin3008:
are there any good models that physically install in the vehicle. perhaps a sensor under the grill with a display on the dash? i've owned a couple of models and i really don't like the wires and clutter. if they don't make one, i guess i'll have to do what i have to do.
V1 can be installed really nicely, right under the rearview mirror. If you do a search for Valentine 1 in inside-out forum, you'll find step by step installation instructions I posted. All you see is 8" of wire coming into the roof liner.
 
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