I just came back from my muffler shop he installed for me a magnaflow #14821(magnaflow.com) with 2 1/2 in mandrel bent piping with barely a bend by the way!! well i come to find out he did toyomoto's exhaust(catback hp muffler)now the muffler i got is one of the best looking 4"angle cut tip all polished cannister...It sounds like a TURBO car very quiet low rpm's but rips when you step on it!! ---- well here's something i worked out if anyone is looking for a beautiful looking exhaust i worked out a deal with him on the resonator-back magnaflow, and the cat-back that you have been seeing posted--both are 2 1/2 inches in piping( hks is like 2.4, 5zigen is less i think) but the cannister is not as small as the 5 zigen or as big as the hks i think it's just right...it looks classy but not wimpy. now i know i am not established on this board so i will get together with gabe so he can see and hear my exhaust and post what he thinks..but i would like to see how many people are interested..this is not a group buy but of course the more who buy at once the cheaper they are. i can sell 1 or 20 so if you need one right away i can get it without you waiting for 10 others to get it...i will post more info on the sale/trade forum---if there is enough interest i will get dyno results etc.. i just got to see if people are interested...the guy at the muffler shop is also a member of the boards---and he guarantees a lifetime warranty on the magnaflow mufflers(does 5zigen or any others come with a lifetime warranty? just asking) if there is enough interest i will also post pics of the muffler on the car and under so you can see that is barely a bend and you guys know the less bends the more flowing the more horsepower!! well thanks for your patience and i hope to make some is owners happy with this product i promise i am the most picky when it comes to mufflers etc....this magnaflow is beautiful and sounds like a turbo car even the muffler shop owner commented that it sounded like a turbo car!! so just pm me or email me at [email protected] i will answer everyone's question....i will also get with adrey who is a friend of mine so he can post his opinions on the board---SO CHECK OUT SALE?TRADE FORUM FOR PRICING INFO!!!