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Factory remote? No.
Aftermarket - possibly.
Only problem I see is with the driver side window, which is controlled by the ECU located inside of the driver door.
 

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Originally posted by lisnup65:
NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!
Any idea how to resolve the above stated problem?

I was considering doing the same mod.
 

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Originally posted by lisnup65:
NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell us how it can be accomplished. Take the car back to the dealer to reprogram? I really want to be able to vent the heat by lowering all windows when I'm on the way walking toward the car.
 

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There's no dealer reprogram for the IS.
I remember it being discussed some time ago.
 

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The windows can be lowered with a remote. I have an after market alarm just put on there. 800 dollars....windows up and down, remote start, everything!! Viper 550ESP. It's tight!!! Has the viper voice and all!! Very impressive. I have it to where the music and stereo starts when the engine is auto started by remote. Usually, it only turns on the air conditioner or heat or whatever. Also, if u get the after market windows up and down from remote function...when u are inside the car...from the drivers side..the passenger window becomes automatic as well!!! Both going up and down auto. Which is awesome!!
 

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So, let me get this sraight.
The passenger side window became auto down/up? How was that done? Was the button on the control replaced? Was the driver side control unit modified? I assume there's no "pinch protection" on passenger side window. Does the stereo turn on on purpose when the engine starts? It would have to be the other way around, unless the install was not done properly.
I'm just trying to look at it from the install point of view. Thanks for the info.
 

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the passenger side does have pinch. And to where i got the system to turn on is sumthin i wanted done. Auto start is usually only supposed to turn on the air conditioner and such..but i asked specifically to have the stereo turned on to..cool huh? And yes, the windows do go up and down on auto now..which is nice. and both sides still have pinch protection.

let me know if u have any other questions
 

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All of my windows are auto up and down. I have the clifford intel 9000. They all have pinch protection. They roll up when alarm is armed and the can be vented too on hot days. I can leave them down fully and still have the alarmed arm if I set it that way. To make the windows auto all you need is modules installed.
 

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Okay I guess it CANNOT be done with the FACTORY system. I leased my IS so I'm not going to install many (if any) aftermarket parts to it. Besides, having the remote built into the key do not make me miss the days of having to carry an extra bulky fob around.
 

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It could be interfaced into the factory system it 1 is willing to pay for it. Up is easy as all you need to do is use the door lock trigger to activate the module. You could do the same with down, but I'm sure that when it rains you dont want the windows to go down when unlocking the car. To get by this you add a rain sensor that will disable the module when it rains. You also would put a toggle switch inline with the module so you could over ride whenever you wanted. Its not the perfect setup, but IT CAN BE DONE.
 

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Now, I'm getting some insight on how all that was done.
I wouldn't use the lock/unlock feature since lock/unlock buttons would up/down windows too.
I still don't see how the pinch protection was done since it needs an ECU that controls variations in window motor speed to stop the window from closing if anything is out of line. Unless, such module was installed.

To get the auto down for pass side, was the button on driver side window control module replaced w/ the auto type?
How is the command sent into the window control module to lower the windows? Were there extra wires run into the door? Or is there something that works off RF?

Thanks. I'm gathering info on how to install that thing if I ever decide to.
 

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The lock/unlock works fine cause its relayed controled off a factory security wire. You obviously have no clue to how this works so please DO NOT comment until you do. The pinch protection does not require a special ECU, it works by cuurent draw in the aftermarket module. Resistance in the module when it is rolloing up causes the draw to go up. When it hits a predetermined setting it stops the roll up. Thats also how the module knows when the window is up or down and to stop sending power. No modification is needed to the factory switches as the aftermarket module senses how long you hold the switch down and then determines if auto mode should kick in. Its quite simple and they work well. I hope this helps clear up the confusion.
 

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Originally posted by lisnup65:
The lock/unlock works fine cause its relayed controled off a factory security wire.
The factory security system, "Wireless Door Lock Control Receiver" to be exact, sends digital signal to the MPX module, which locks/unlocks the doors. The digital communiction lasts 60 seconds, then it goes to +12V to save on decoding power consumption. Unless you can tap into there, no way will you be able to separate push of lock/unlock button and security system being engaged/disengaged.

You obviously have no clue to how this works so please DO NOT comment until you do.

For future reference, please consider it might be you that don't.


The pinch protection does not require a special ECU, it works by cuurent draw in the aftermarket module. Resistance in the module when it is rolloing up causes the draw to go up. When it hits a predetermined setting it stops the roll up. Thats also how the module knows when the window is up or down and to stop sending power.

That is true for the aftermarket system. That's what I wanted to know.
The OEM pinch protection on the driver side works differently than aftermarket. It uses "pulse sensor" to determine irregularites in window movement to stop it if anything interfears. So, it uses different principle.

No modification is needed to the factory switches as the aftermarket module senses how long you hold the switch down and then determines if auto mode should kick in. Its quite simple and they work well. I hope this helps clear up the confusion.
That answers another one of my questions - how does it know to use automatic down/up.
Still, one question remains. How does the system lower the driver side window? Were there any wires run into the driver door, where the "Power Window Master Switch" is located, which controls driver side window?


[ July 07, 2001: Message edited by: vlad_a ]
 

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Now about these window modules...can they be installed as a stand-alone option or do they have to be installed along w/ a security system? TIA
 

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I have been in the automotive aftermarket industry for well over a decade. I am a master installer with a security speacialist background. When I stated that you use a relay for control, I never said from the lock/unlock wire!! I have done this in test by using the factory piezo that is used for audio verification on the system.
TO properly install modules on the IS you need to run 2(up) or 4(up/down) wires into each door. You then cut the wires in the car door that go to the actual window motor. They are then wired to run through the module. When you use the factory switches all is normal except if the switch is held longer than say 1.5 seconds it well automate to auto up/down. Same sorta priceple that the driver door uses in most vehicles on the road. A lot of the IS is dataplexed which makes it extremely difficult to do a simple interface. I hope this further answered questions in regards to the how it works.
 

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lisnup65, thanks for the info.

Good idea using the sound off factory alarm.

I really don't want to run any wires inside of the doors, so I'll hold off on that mod for now.

Maybe in the future, when (if) I get 2K2+ model of the IS300 w/ Auto up/down of all 4 windows, I might modify "Power Window Master Switch" on a component level for this Mod.
 

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Sorry to bring this post back from the dead but i was wondering has anyone added Sunroof Control to their aftermarket alarm. I would love to be able to do this but TECHSOFT says its not recommended. I have A Viper550ESP and am having the windows done on Friday.
Anyone have any info??
 

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I have auto-close on my IS300. The sunroof circuit is not nice and easy like 99% of the other vehicles on the road. It can be done, but I dont recommend trying it yourself. I submitted the full break-down of the interfaces needed for the IS300 awhile back to a couple of major aftermarket companies. They had not done a break down on the IS and I spent 18 hours doing it. I noticed that the info I submitted, when made public they ommitted the moon-roof and d-lock info because they are more complex circuits than most are capable of doing.
 
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