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Honda/Acura does make better V6 and 4 cylinder engines. I'll give them that. I6 are supposed to be smoother from what I hear.
 

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We'll take the NSX's 3.2L, but the one from the CL is total crap
. Hmmm, actually, are they anything alike???
 

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Originally posted by Nate:
We'll take the NSX's 3.2L, but the one from the CL is total crap
. Hmmm, actually, are they anything alike???
Actually if you look at a Motor Trend comparison a few months ago, the Acura 3.2 TL was compared against a couple other formidable competiors and did 0-60 in 6.7 seconds.... That's not bad at all for just a regular TL without the S-type modifications on the CL-s...
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Yeah, I realize the CL engine has a lot of power and gets great gas mileage and is probably pretty reliable, but since Geoff might read my post I thought I'd just say that it sucked....
 

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Originally posted by Nate:
Yeah, I realize the CL engine has a lot of power and gets great gas mileage and is probably pretty reliable, but since Geoff might read my post I thought I'd just say that it sucked....
Aren't you the Instigator Nate?

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man, i thought this topic would be flaming by now...

sigh...i can't troll like i used to
 

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Alls I can say is bring out the TL type S and I may convert.

I know this is subjective, but in my opinion Acura still needs to learn how to dress up their cars. The TL's (as well as the CL) looks just don't do it for me.
 

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I traded in my accord coupe V6 for an IS, I was surprised that the IS really isn't that much quicker (accord v6 0-60 = 7.7 road&track), it felt much quicker. I also considered the CL-S, and although it was fast as sh-t, it kinda reminded me of my accord... does anybody know if they are built on the same platform?


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Originally posted by Nate:
We'll take the NSX's 3.2L, but the one from the CL is total crap
. Hmmm, actually, are they anything alike???
The NSX's engine is DOHC whereas the CL's is SOHC.
 

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Originally posted by black300_2:
I traded in my accord coupe V6 for an IS, I was surprised that the IS really isn't that much quicker (accord v6 0-60 = 7.7 road&track), it felt much quicker. I also considered the CL-S, and although it was fast as sh-t, it kinda reminded me of my accord... does anybody know if they are built on the same platform?


The CL is built on the same platform as the current Accord.
 

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Honda makes some okay cars for a pretty low budget, but I feel that Toyota is a little more dedicated to performance given their history with the MR2, Celica, and Supra. I mean, Honda can make some great engines, but what does Honda have to show for their showroom models that is a "super-wow-spectacular overall good performer"? (NSX is okay, but 80K?! Come on!)
 

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I mostly buy only Hondas or Toyotas. Maybe even Nissan or Mazda, and if I can afford it, BMWs or MB. I stay away from domestic crap. So, I am not going to bash any of these import cars.

However, even if toyota has had success in the past with racing, I am disappointed with what they have out on the dealerships. The supra is gone, the new celica is improved from the old generation (which I thought lacked appeal) and the new mr2 is not enough. Hondas has the prelude, the civic, accord 2dr, integra and CL to satisfy some of us who crave a little sportiness in our coupes. Don't forget the S2000 and the NSX.

Toyota hardly has any "sporty" cars. Stupid them for killing the Supra, and remember the rally versions of the corollas. That's why I'm excited as hell about the IS.

If you think toyota is more dedicated to performance, they sure ain't hell putting much of it out on the streets.

[This message has been edited by vvtipwr (edited October 31, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by vvtipwr (edited October 31, 2000).]
 

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HUH? I had to read that a few times to make sure I read it right. Every sports coupe that Honda has put on the road has been a hit. I know a lot of people dont take them seriously because all except their 2 high-dollar sports cars are FWD. Toyota is an awesome car maker, but, they only offer 2 sports cars at the moment, and both of them trail Honda in performance, albeit only slightly.


Originally posted by shadoh6:
Honda makes some okay cars for a pretty low budget, but I feel that Toyota is a little more dedicated to performance given their history with the MR2, Celica, and Supra. I mean, Honda can make some great engines, but what does Honda have to show for their showroom models that is a "super-wow-spectacular overall good performer"? (NSX is okay, but 80K?! Come on!)
 

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Honda has a longer heritage in F1 racing. Honda has always prided itself for being a engineering company. They were the first company to produce a CVCC engine that complies with Clean Air Amendments for 1975.
 
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