First of nobody ever said anything about the CL-S handling better than the IS and if they did they're retarded. We all know the IS handles better. Smaller and RWD. My argument is how some people on this forum go on and on about how from the factory the IS is faster than the CL-S in a straight line which we all know isn't true. Maybe you have lined up and won, thats fine, it happens. But we both know from the factory our cars are faster. If we go same mods, our cars are faster. This thread isn't for flame wars or to say anything dumb, we'll keep that to the other thread. This is for a normal conversation.