Sure it is.... The A4 is more of a direct competitor however, there are people that considered the S4 before their IS300 purchase. (that in itself makes it a competitor)... My friend was considering the IS300 and even put a deposit on one, then got a refund in order to buy a Tiptronic S4...Originally posted by NYIS300:
The s4 is really not a competitor for the Is300.
First of all the S4 did beat the M3 but by a razor thin victory not "almost every comparison." Second if you look at the IS300 acceleration specs, it fits neatly right between the 0-60 time of the S4 and A4. (making it a competitor to both performance wise). Third the CLK55 will not be compared to those cars you mention.. the C32 AMG will be..Originally posted by NYIS300:
Every car is a competitor then if thats you point. The FACT is the A4 is what the IS is tested against not a twin turbo Audi. The S4 was compared with the M3 ( not the New one) and beat it in almost every comparison. I still don't think it was fair to compare the two considering the rumors of a 300+ hp M3 was coming out, and yet they tested anyways. The S4 is a completely different beast from the IS. Next time a comparison with the S4 will be done, it will be between the M3 ( which will win), the CLK55( which is hot),NOT THE IS300!!!!!!!!!!!( which will loseeeeeee, n questions). Next forum comparison---- Mustang saleen 351 vs IS300 ( dumb comparison isnt it)
The S4 was not built to compete with the CLK55 (which is in a class of its own), but with the C32 AMG.... Next... my sister has an Audi A4 2.8 Quattro (almost a $36,000 car). I've driven it many times and it's FAR less inspiring to drive than the IS300. It does 0-60 in 8.8 seconds. The Audi S4 Tiptronic does 0-60 in 6.2-6.5 seconds (I have driven my friends tiptronic several times).... The IS300 was far closer to the Tiptronic S4 in terms of acceleration and handling than my sister's sloth of a car. I have driven all 3 cars and will say that IS300 is much closer to a Tip S4 hence which is why a lot of IS300 owners did consider the S4.... Keep in mind I'm using the Tiptronic instead of the 6 speed cause the IS300 in only available in an Automatic, so I'm just being fair here.Originally posted by NYIS300:
Your comparing a cvar that runs high 15's to a car that runs low 14's fitting inbetween does not warrent comparisons many car fit in between the 14'2 and 15's. Acceleration dude be real the Is is slightly faster the the 1.8l a4 and wayyyyyyyy slower then the s4 a one second difference is alot.......You cant compare a car that is not even similar. The S4 slightly beating the M3 is a accomlishment considering where Audi was 10 years ago compared to BMW. The first and second place finsihes at lemans show Audi wanting to be a manufacture that wants to get recognition with companies like BMW. The Lexus is a lux sport to some degree you a right. The comparison of most people want IS300 and then shopping for a S4 is your own observations. Audi intended the S4 to compare against the M3 ( even though it will lose) the CLK55 ( which is somewhat AMG styling) The A4 is equal to the IS300 the shoppers that look at A4 will also take a look at the IS300 as the are in the same dollar value + or - a few thousand. The S4 is almost a 10k difference. I do not see where you get this equal thing totally different cars, totally different market, totally different buyers.
Exactly KOTA...!Originally posted by Chiphead:
I was watching the Top Gear review movie of the Audi RS4 and the driver said it had chronic understear. He had to pull the handbrakes to get the rear to swing out. And this is a wagon that has more weight in the back than a S4. This leads me to believe that the S4 drives like a FWD car in the dry.