That is what I am getting from the dealers around the Los Angeles area. 2G off the MSRP for the car with/without the heated seats and LSD. But, with the moon roof and 17" graphite wheels. My thinking is that the sales is going to be slow for a while for the holidays. The price may drop if they can't push them out of the lot (people who wants one, has one already). If you can wait till next year, I am sure you will get a better deal. But, 2G off the MSRP is a good deal. I can't wait, I will get mine before the end of the year.