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Is the IS 300 forum populated with a bunch of racers? I didn't buy this car to race anyone...not even Geoff. After years of SUV driving this is a big change for me - I really love to bang the hard turns, blow by those monster SUV and MiniVan bastards etc...I really don't go looking to race anybody.

Am I the only one that wanted to buy this car to play around...or were you guys looking to impress women and to race?

Agent Smith Out

PS - ok, so maybe I like to impress the young ladies too.
 

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Originally posted by Agent Smith:
Is the IS 300 forum populated with a bunch of racers? I didn't buy this car to race anyone...not even Geoff. After years of SUV driving this is a big change for me - I really love to bang the hard turns, blow by those monster SUV and MiniVan bastards etc...I really don't go looking to race anybody.

Am I the only one that wanted to buy this car to play around...or were you guys looking to impress women and to race?

Agent Smith Out

PS - ok, so maybe I like to impress the young ladies too.
agent, i'm coming off 8 years of truck/suv's, and i didn't buy my car to race. it's nice having that power, but i like the luxury aspect just as much.

but u know i own u, right?




[This message has been edited by geoff (edited October 11, 2000).]
 

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Agent Smith,
I hope you're not targeting me with this post. I didn't buy my car to race either but when I was just having some fun that day with the 540i....

Eric...
 

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I'm all for racing.. although the IS300 isn't exactly the ideal platform.. my reasons for wanting an IS are, like Geoff, the luxury aspects, without sacrificing too much in the way of sportiness.. although an occasional stop light challenge is good.. I wouldn't go picking on an S4 or anything like that (although if pushed to race, I'm not above cheating)..
 

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Just to have fun man...
It's nice to drive fast once in a while, but my drag racing days are over. That's why I sold my riced up Eclipse.
 

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but you know what, I'm still gunning it out of every toll booth thinking I'm speed racer, taking on cars I have no business racing, that could whoop me any day....but it's all in the name of fun though.
 

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Wasn't targeting anyone with this post so no worries there...I was just curious if people were more about zipping around turns etc in the IS rather than waiting for Geoff to beat us by .5 seconds or so....seems like the majority here feel that way...and an occasional off the line race is ok in my books....I was curious if people went around looking for races or not.

G - you can't afford me, you couldn't even lease me...bitch

After all, I am an expensive man whore...ie I am in Sales
 

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you think a S2K is easy to autocross???

bwaaa haa haa haa haa (oh, my sides hurt from laughing!)

that's probably one of THE HARDEST cars to autocross, even stated by Howard Duncan, one of the SOLO II SCCA folks out of Denver. But man, is it fun to try anyway! Wouldn't trade it for the world...

On the other hand, the Type R is extremely user friendly on an autocross course. You can be competitive nationally in GS with a bone stock ITR with race tires on it.

Annie
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(2nd pl at Nationals in 1999 in a Type R, 2nd pl in 2000 in a S2K)
 

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Originally posted by Agent Smith:
Wasn't targeting anyone with this post so no worries there...I was just curious if people were more about zipping around turns etc in the IS rather than waiting for Geoff to beat us by .5 seconds or so....seems like the majority here feel that way...and an occasional off the line race is ok in my books....I was curious if people went around looking for races or not.

G - you can't afford me, you couldn't even lease me...bitch

After all, I am an expensive man whore...ie I am in Sales
1. u mean beat u by 1 second


2. i own j00 anyway

3. nice work on that solara thread there, bud
 

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You think my Solora thread was intentionally posted to generate the animosity we are witnessing? Maybe it was, but then again..I am not that smart to think of something crafty like that.
 

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Well I bought mine for the fun drive and looks of the car. I am not a real racer, well except for that one race with the CL TYPE S that I kicked his ass!
 

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I bought it for daily commute w/luxury, unique, class, and alitle power to pass dos big iron suv taking the left lane and doing 70 gee I hate dos
but won't backout on potencial preys: A4, 328, TL, CL, hondas ...
 

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Is the S2000 hard to autocross because of its tendency to snap the tail around? I would think the S2000's powerband actually suits racing pretty well. Has anyone here autocrossed the RX-7? I think I maybe getting into SCCA autocross if I have the money to buy and maintain a race car, and this is one of them I am looking at. I am leaning more toward Go-Kart though, it is just so fun to toss those things around the track. And it is relatively cheap.
 

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Yeah - I autocrossed my 1983 Rx7.

It eventually ended up with 285/40ZR15 rear tires, and a 300hp+ Turbo 13B running on propane. It was a _FUN_ autocross car, but not necessarily the quickest way around a tight track.

I think the MR2 is a better Auto-X car.
 

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While waiting for Banannie's explanation, here's my take on why the S2000 is hard to autocross:
When you go into a corner, if you
(1) Let off the gas, the back end comes around
(2) Use the brake, back end comes around
(3) step on the gas, back end comes around
(4) Shift, something bad happens
And the car requires very quick counter-steer, or you'll spin it. So that's my guess why you have to be very good to drive that car fast. If you're not good at these things, don't even consider buying it.
 

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yup, you hit it right on the head

on street tires, the S2K is fairly neutral, but if you push it, you can get it to spin - been there, done that, planted it into a cement wall on an offramp at 60 because of that (and my somewhat agressive driving style).


on race tires, all hell breaks loose. you'll literally drive the car sideways, the back end comes around so much. you CAN drive the car smoothly but it ISN'T fast... so if you see someone driving on race tires and looking smooth, well, sorry guys, I can do that too, but I'd be three or four seconds behind AS times. The car behaves up to a point, then it laughs in your face.

Also, the car has a huge problem with inside wheel spin. The car will actually lift the inside rear wheel far enough off the ground to overpower the torsen - actually, it makes it pretty useless when there's no weight on the wheel. So you can't put power down. Really hard to drive fast this way. Patience, patience until that wheel comes back down.

Race shocks help with the oversteer, but you'll also need a HUGE front bar to get beyond the inside wheel spin problem. We've got the Mugen 32.4mm(?) bar, and that isn't anywhere near enough. That's with front shocks stiff and rear shocks very soft to counteract the oversteer.

On the other hand, the Type R is VERY neutral and will put up with so many inherently bad driving traits. That's also an amazingly fun car to autocross. Do anything even remotely abrupt in the Honda, and the S2K will laugh at you, then spin, spin, spin!

As for the RX7 - it's a great autocross car, but from what I hear you've got to work at keeping it in the power band. And the new Corvettes are really giving it a run for it's money...

As for the Mr2 - I've driven both a NA and a Turbo, and man, are those FUN cars!! But unfortunately it's somewhat outclassed by the Boxster and the S2K now - it's still THE CAR to have for Prosolo, though, man can them puppies LAUNCH! A well prepared Mr2 and a great driver can still do amazing things in that car - Andy McKee and Theresa Neidel are too examples.

well, gotta run

Annie
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