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Well since Prolex won't return e-mails regarding their supercharger and SRT seems really informative I am going with the Stg II. Can anyone who has it give me some pro's and con's while I wait? Also what kind of a difference did you feel after the install?
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for whatever reason it won't let me post? if you are "going with srt" then you don't need feedback, as you have already made your decision. crying about prolex not emailing you back, hoping that he will see it and respond is not very likely either. i'm assuming you are not decided, since you are asking for feedback, and that you have access to a telephone, so call prolex for answers to questions, and while you are at it, call srt as well. you'll have 1-1 peer feedback from both companies at your disposal

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AC556k said:
Well since Prolex won't return e-mails regarding their supercharger and SRT seems really informative I am going with the Stg II. Can anyone who has it give me some pro's and con's while I wait?
You will be very happy with your purchase- I've had my kit for over 3,000 miles now, with zero hiccups- car is running great, and I haven't reset the ECU once except for when i wired my ebc and turbo timer- fuel trims stay right where they are supposed to be and the car is running great.

do you have a manual or an auto? With a manual, you will burn out your clutch faster- just be prepared to need one sooner than you think. Also, make sure that you are prepared to purchase better brakes and wider tires- 215s definitely were not meant to handle 340rwhp.


Also what kind of a difference did you feel after the install?
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You will be able to beat or at least run with most any car that you find on the road (within reason- you will not be smoking 800hp supras)- However, you'd be surprised how well you will keep up with a Turbo Carrera on the highway- the last one i ran only pulled 2 car lengths from 80-145, when my speed limiter kicked in. A side note- you will walk m3s and m5s with ease. Isn't that all that really matters?

power is addictive- you will get used to having the power- however, I recently got the opportunity to drive an n/a 5-speed IS with my old mods on it.... What a difference!! after driving my car, an n/a IS300 feels so so so so so slow- as soon as I hit 3000rpms, i was thinking "um, isn't the car supposed to accellerate now?" Needless to say, the owner wasn't as amused as I was at how slow it felt.

Anyway, good choice, and welcome to the family. 8)

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doublins said:
Needless to say, the owner wasn't as amused as I was at how slow it felt.
Screw you!!!! :pissed: :pissed:

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Well, folks, the owner has spoken :lol:
 

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Don't worry Wino. Put on some stickers?
 

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AC556k said:
Well since Prolex won't return e-mails regarding their supercharger and SRT seems really informative I am going with the Stg II. Can anyone who has it give me some pro's and con's while I wait? Also what kind of a difference did you feel after the install?
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for whatever reason it won't let me post? if you are "going with srt" then you don't need feedback, as you have already made your decision. crying about prolex not emailing you back, hoping that he will see it and respond is not very likely either. i'm assuming you are not decided, since you are asking for feedback, and that you have access to a telephone, so call prolex for answers to questions, and while you are at it, call srt as well. you'll have 1-1 peer feedback from both companies at your disposal

-gte

 

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IS Pilot said:
I would have to assume this is you?

Subject: Product Inquiries
UserName: Alex XXXXXX
Email: [email protected]
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Date: 07/17/2003
Time: 10:55 AM

It takes atleast 24hr for a response from a email just like the auto reply states, if you need faster answers you could always call us toll free. Since you seem to have made up your mind I will not bother replying to your email. Good luck with your kit.
Mike
Mike, you rock. That is all. Keep up the good work. I had a chance to check out a PLP strut bar you sold to a friend in NH. Good work on that. It looks to be a nice design.
 

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Okay not to thread jack but I used the search and actual found a relevant post :D I have been considering the PLP Vortech or the SRT Stg II. I am still up in the air. Although the noise of the turbo's BOV is great and some don't like the whine of the SC, that doesn't matter to me. I would like to know pros and cons to both setups.

Can someone compare the TOTAL cost of these kits. Kit + install of SRT stg II = $6,745. PLP Vortech kit + install = $6,300. But will I need to spend $1k more for gauges with the SRT? What are the difference in periodic maintenance between a S/C and a Turbo (I have heard they are identical and that they are completely different)? Will one setup affect the engine life more then the other? What is the engine life on a stg II and/or S/C? Does the SRT kit have a custoom exhaust or do I keep my DraggerII? Will the SRT kit see the same gains as the Vortech if the headers & race pipe are installed or does the SRT kit come with replacements already for those?

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pmergler said:
But will I need to spend $1k more for gauges with the SRT?
No, all you really need is a boost gauge...you can always upgrade (oil temp, egt) later...I'm getting a <100 dollar autometer for now.

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What are the difference in periodic maintenance between a S/C and a Turbo (I have heard they are identical and that they are completely different)?
The s/c you have to chage the oil in separately...the turbo just gets changed when you change the car's oil. belts and/or pulleys may also need replacing with a s/c

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Will one setup affect the engine life more then the other? What is the engine life on a stg II and/or S/C?
Not sure on this but I'm sure it can go both ways depending on the kit, the driver, and other factors (ex. weather)

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Does the SRT kit have a custoom exhaust or do I keep my DraggerII?
Yes they do offer one, and it is PHAT!!!

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Will the SRT kit see the same gains as the Vortech if the headers & race pipe are installed or does the SRT kit come with replacements already for those?
A turbo kit replaces the header and y-pipe with an exhaust manifold and downpipe. SRT's turbo with custom 3" exhaust (doublins car) put about 350 to the wheels.

PLP's s/c kit did not come close to that figure and knowing plp...you could be waiting a long time for their header and exhaust setup to come out.

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Thanks for the feedback Wino. I do know through conversations with MIke that the PLP Vortech's oil system is tapped directly into the main oil system so all you need to do is do your normal oil replacement (this is not the case with the TBKO).

I still am up in the air. I know that Turbo is better for those who will be making the car go faster, and faster, and faster. T's are upgradable and more effecient. But my plan is to put it on and keep it. Enjoy the increase horsepower but keep it there. This is my daily driver that I want to keep for 150k miles+. And of course cost is an issue. So I still don't know.
 

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i think having a seperate oil supply is good. It means you don't have to change the car oil as frequently as you would with a shared source.
 

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Can someone compare the TOTAL cost of these kits. Kit + install of SRT stg II = $6,745. PLP Vortech kit + install = $6,300. But will I need to spend $1k more for gauges with the SRT? What are the difference in periodic maintenance between a S/C and a Turbo (I have heard they are identical and that they are completely different)? Will one setup affect the engine life more then the other? What is the engine life on a stg II and/or S/C? Does the SRT kit have a custoom exhaust or do I keep my DraggerII? Will the SRT kit see the same gains as the Vortech if the headers & race pipe are installed or does the SRT kit come with replacements already for those?

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Is that all for install of the SRT stg II kit? Is that with them installing it? Seems like it would be more that $700.

Periodic maintenance = not much difference. Change your oil regularly and use a very good synthetic with both.

Engine life = turbo is better with the intercooler because intake air won't be as hot; s/c is going to heat the air quite a bit and has no intercooler. The heat from a turbo is not because it "touches the exhaust piping" but because it compresses the air just like an SC.

One important note, don't shop "peak" HP when looking at SC vs. Turbo. Get a dyno from each company and look at the area under the curve. What you'll find is that the turbo is probably producing 50% to 70% more torque between 3k and 5k RPMs (so much for turbo lag). The centrifugal SC can't produce much boost at 3k RPMs and the turbo can.

go to F/I tuning discussion for more about the difference. (how do you instert a link to another post?).

Get the turbo, you'll be happy for a long time.

-early[/quote]
 

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pmergler said:
Can someone compare the TOTAL cost of these kits. Kit + install of SRT stg II = $6,745. PLP Vortech kit + install = $6,300. But will I need to spend $1k more for gauges with the SRT? What are the difference in periodic maintenance between a S/C and a Turbo (I have heard they are identical and that they are completely different)? Will one setup affect the engine life more then the other? What is the engine life on a stg II and/or S/C? Does the SRT kit have a custoom exhaust or do I keep my DraggerII? Will the SRT kit see the same gains as the Vortech if the headers & race pipe are installed or does the SRT kit come with replacements already for those?

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Is that all for install of the SRT stg II kit? Is that with them installing it? Seems like it would be more that $700.

Engine life = turbo is better with the intercooler because intake air won't be as hot; s/c is going to heat the air quite a bit and has no intercooler. The heat from a turbo is not because it "touches the exhaust piping" but because it compresses the air just like an SC. -early
The install price was from redlines??(think that was who it was) spreadsheet that he posted on all the available F/I kits.

About engine life. I see what you are saying. The only other thinig I have heard that says the turbo reduces it more is that the sudden "surge" when the turbo kicks in at 3500 rpms is a big jarring to the engine that hurts engine life. Can you comment on the validity of that please? Can you get 160k miles out of an engine with S/C or turbo?
 

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pmergler said:
The install price was from redlines??(think that was who it was) spreadsheet that he posted on all the available F/I kits.
Yeah, redline posted the f/i sheet. install is $750 i believe and takes about 2-3 days.

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About engine life. I see what you are saying. The only other thinig I have heard that says the turbo reduces it more is that the sudden "surge" when the turbo kicks in at 3500 rpms is a big jarring to the engine that hurts engine life. Can you comment on the validity of that please? Can you get 160k miles out of an engine with S/C or turbo?
I really think any car that is well maintained and driven properly will last a good amount of time. Do I think turbo is going to shorten the lifespan? Yes, probably will. Do I think it's going to shorten it significantly? No.

Take care of your car and drive it like you love it. :chill:
 
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