The dealer here in Hawaii says that they do not get the 2% kickback because they are actually owned by Servco. Can anyone confirm this? I wanted a Lexus, but now I am less enthus about getting one. I offered to pay $33,000 out the door (a thousand more than what my friend had paid) with sunroof and leather package and they didn't accept my offer. The sales rep (crooks) told me that they are much more flexable with the price and that there is room to negotiate. However, in negotiations, he tells me otherwise. This was the second time I went there to negotiate and each time they let me walk. There was no follow up...nothing from the sales rep. Unfortunately, there's only one lexus dealer here in the Island. I am ready to buy a BMW instead. Any comments on how I should get them to come down to my price?