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im lookin into buying an old civic hatchback and transplanting a type r motor into it. anyone who is educated on this subject could you let me know approximate costs when all is said and done?
 

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depending the year of the hatchback you want ..
if you want a 96+ .. a salvage title one would be around 4000 ...
and a jdm B18C5 motor with tranny, ecu .. would be around 6000 to 7000 installed (low milege one...), B16B motor would be like 5000 installed..

B18c5 is integra typeR
B16B is civic typeR
 

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depending on what model civic hatchback you want all civics are interchangeable with any B series motor for the years 92+ most people go with the EG Model Civic (92-95) because it is much lighter than the EK Model Civic (96-00) so if you plant a C5 into a EG you will be even faster than a C5 in a EK due to you being lighter...but some people prefer the EK over the EG because of looks and they are usually found stripped everything that is power, i.e, Power Doors, Power Steering, A.C., Power Windows, etc. if you need any sites or any more information feel free to E-Mail me...i still have the thousands of sites of Honda/Acura performance from when i bought shit for my 2000 Civic Si 8)
 

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thanks for the info everyone...im looking for the cheapest way i could do this with quality.
reaper if you could link some of those sights here that would be killer.
 

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one of the engine supplier here told me I could get a b18c5 [Teg Type R]for 1000 dollars with 30,000 miles... does that sound right?
 

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one of the engine supplier here told me I could get a b18c5 [Teg Type R]for 1000 dollars with 30,000 miles... does that sound right?
That's damn cheap son. Does it include ANYTHING other than the block/head? You need an ecu and axles and such.
 

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  • http://www.jdmclub.com/
  • http://www.alljdm.com/index2.html
  • http://www.haprecycling.com/
  • http://members.rennlist.com/damp_dave/H-I_eng.html
  • http://www.jdm1.com/
  • http://www.JDMHondaParts.com
  • http://www.reliablejapanengine.com/
  • http://www.streetimports.com/
  • http://www.hmotorsonline.com/
These are just the few i know of right off the bat...also...TODA, JUN, and MUGEN also makes b series motors but those cost like in the $9K range....and another thing...any B Series engine part is swappable i.e a 97 B18C5 Head will fit on a 2000 Civic Si Block, etc... and that goes just about for every part...I too, am thinkin about getting a Hatchback and doing a GSR Swap with a B20 Head (CRV Head) that is also DOHC VTEC Compatible, this setup is good for Boost or you can do a LS swap with just the block and run a B16a2 Head on it and boost the shit outta it 8) theres hundreds of combinations for different ways to make power out of hondas
 

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Boodies said:
one of the engine supplier here told me I could get a b18c5 [Teg Type R]for 1000 dollars with 30,000 miles... does that sound right?
no that does not sound right ....7 times outta 10, theres something wrong with it and it needs to be rebuilt or shit is missing...to do a successful swap, you will need the Motor, main wiring harness, Axles, ECU, and me personally i like to ask if i get the Gauge Cluster that came with it so i know how many miles are actually on the focker, but to do the swap you will need to make sure all the wiring connections/ sensors are in good shape before installing and you will need new o-rings for the shift linkage an such
 

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I did a JDM motor swap into a 1990 Civic Si Hatch. It took me about 10 hrs to complete. Very quick car. I say go with the EF hatch as they are light and crazy for sleepers. I know of a guy that put a TypeR motor in a 1990 DX hatch and was racking up kills left and right.

you can have a EF Civic and a Type R motor Swap for roughly $7000 complete. (at least in NYC area)
 

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BigDaddyRich said:
you can have a EF Civic and a Type R motor Swap for roughly $7000 complete. (at least in NYC area)
thats about how much they go for here in GA. although when it comes to performance...even tho the EF model isnt all that good looking, who the f*ck cares...what matters is the drivability and the sleeper look
 

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Tha Reaper said:
  • http://www.jdmclub.com/
  • http://www.alljdm.com/index2.html
  • http://www.haprecycling.com/
  • http://members.rennlist.com/damp_dave/H-I_eng.html
  • http://www.jdm1.com/
  • http://www.JDMHondaParts.com
  • http://www.reliablejapanengine.com/
  • http://www.streetimports.com/
  • http://www.hmotorsonline.com/
These are just the few i know of right off the bat...also...TODA, JUN, and MUGEN also makes b series motors but those cost like in the $9K range....and another thing...any B Series engine part is swappable i.e a 97 B18C5 Head will fit on a 2000 Civic Si Block, etc... and that goes just about for every part...I too, am thinkin about getting a Hatchback and doing a GSR Swap with a B20 Head (CRV Head) that is also DOHC VTEC Compatible, this setup is good for Boost or you can do a LS swap with just the block and run a B16a2 Head on it and boost the shit outta it 8) theres hundreds of combinations for different ways to make power out of hondas
Hey, my friend did that .. to his 2000 Si civic,
put in a B20 head and B18C5 block,
that way he has more torque in low end due to the 2000cc ..head..
he ran in speedtrial .. now .
is a great powerful car.. but need more care for this kind of mix and match swap tho
 

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Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got. I'm still I'm still Jenny from the block. Used to have a little, now I have a lot.
 

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kinddog said:
Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got. I'm still I'm still Jenny from the block. Used to have a little, now I have a lot.
Dang, Aubie inspire you to whore like a fiend today, or what?
 

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BigDaddyRich said:
you can have a EF Civic and a Type R motor Swap for roughly $7000 complete. (at least in NYC area)
thats about how much they go for here in GA. although when it comes to performance...even tho the EF model isnt all that good looking, who the f*ck cares...what matters is the drivability and the sleeper look
Cool... I meant project car purchase and swap parts and labor is equal to $7000 complete ;)
 

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IMO going for the type R motor is not the best way to make a race car. Those motors are stupid overpriced and there isn't enough of a power gain for it to be worthwhile.

stick to the GSR motor, or LS if your going turbo, and use the money you save on some good cams, pistons, and your basic bolt-ons. Complete GSR swaps around houston go for around 2500 uninstalled but i would suggest hitting the junk yards out of the bigger cities and find a late model wrecked integra and save even more money.

BTW 6th gen. hatches are less than 200 lbs heavier than the 5th gen. One thing to consider though is that a lot of people praise the 6th gen's ability to hook up moreso than the 5th gen.

edit: i noticed your in houston, if you want a cheap install let me know.
 

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I paid around 6K on my car so far. The hardest part is finding a cheap hatchback. I drove to North Carolina from Houston, yes I know I am crazy to get my 92 hatch for 2300.

Then I paid 2700 for a GSR swap from a junkyard, which is cheaper than what GSR's go for nowawadays. People always want to get like 3300 for a GSR swap, but if you wait you can find them cheaper.

There ya have it, my 13 second sleeper :)

If you need anyone to install a motor cheap, my buddies and I can have it done for you in no time.

Oh yea... another thing. Make sure the motor you get it legit. Way to much stealing going along lately.
 

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I paid around 6K on my car so far. The hardest part is finding a cheap hatchback. I drove to North Carolina from Houston, yes I know I am crazy to get my 92 hatch for 2300.

Then I paid 2700 for a GSR swap from a junkyard, which is cheaper than what GSR's go for nowawadays. People always want to get like 3300 for a GSR swap, but if you wait you can find them cheaper.

There ya have it, my 13 second sleeper :)

If you need anyone to install a motor cheap, my buddies and I can have it done for you in no time.

Oh yea... another thing. Make sure the motor you get it legit. Way to much stealing going along lately.
damn i'm definately going with the LS if GSR's are goin for 3k. i'm so broke i'm gonna be the only one with a LS swap with a DX gauge cluster. :lol:

i know you got skills and some day......prabably not soon but some day you gotta help me with mine.
 
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