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the only thing i see here or hear, is supposedly the new owner saying that Area51Fab and the new Area51 is two different company. But why is it the new Area51 is taking all the products that Area51fab produced and placing it in their line of products. To me i think they are the same company with jus the last word of their company name changed.


LOL what does all this say about their customer service? SUCKASS

P.S: Remember you guys owe alot of people a hell lot of money. And your claim of trying to help Dave out just suddenly vanished?
 

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Thanks for backing me up Wxman.


How are you going to tell us that you are not fabricating products? Didn't the "new" air intake box needed to be fabricated? And what about the "new" supercharger" system, you posted up.


And as to your comment about, you're abiligate to produce any products that you feel fits, due to demands. What you are telling me is that I can take other manufacture's ideas duplicated and make profit off of it? Damn dude, you might as well go bankrupt now because you are looking at lawsuit head over heels.

Different owners, staffs? Seems like you are getting help and affliation with the old owner, Dave. Again, it jus seems like you took out the Fabrication and placed it with Hyperformance. Area51Fab did the same thing, they fab and also distribute products. Hence, thats how we got started with the company.

As Wxman has stated up above, if you are claiming that this is two seperate and different companies, why are you paying for their debts? In my own personal opinion, your company aren't doing anything to resolve such claims from the old accounts. Making all these statements, but again there isn't anything to show for it. IS300.Net is a big forum, and almost every lexus is300 enthuasiast comes onto this site, and they research about everything little thing, from parts to companie's reputation. And the way things are going for your company as a IS300 part fab/distrib. you are at a downfall. It wasn't too long ago, your company posted up claim of new products coming out, and 2 weeks later, nothing to show for.
 

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Dave also still owes me 1000. Both Dave and Ken said they would try to bring this sitation to an end
 

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my company have faxed over our reciept of the paper work we had recieve from the Postal Inspection Service, proof of Area51 had cashed the money order. Usually we do not get Invoices until after recieve the merchandise. As I have stated to you before many PMs ago, that we never recieved any invoice whatsoever. After I had faxed over what I had over to you, you never responded back to me.

You're saying that Area51fab holds their record, etc., now you tell me, what happened to the the $1,000 U.S Postal Money Order in which they had cashed. The only proof that i got in my hands right now are the statement from the Inspectional Service, saying that the M.O was cashed months before my company and I heard of the situation with the Area51.

I'm not bad mouthing any, I am just letting people know of the situation, and have them aware of what they could be possibly dealing with.

Now can we get this straight. Dave is saying you asked to use the name, but Ken, you're saying he insisted? Which one is it?

In legal and technical terms, Area51Fab gave the company up to you, since Dave could no longer handle it, financially. Apparently they had invest 13million dollars in research and development, he could of sold all his investment and research to many companys but he chosed to give it up to you without a penny given, thats pretty hard to believe. I understand dave is in a deep debt situation, but one think i cant understand is, he could of sold assets and other things to compensate for his debts.
 

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Ken, i can careless now about the $1,000. And i can careless about your relation with Dave. I am just letting everyone know, my situation, and your companie's reputation.

And believe or not, we did not get any invoice from Area51Fab. Like i said previously, we normally dont recieve any invoice what so ever after a order, until weeks afterwards. We have an account with Area51, and it wasn't too much of a concern at the time, because their reputation was outstanding, but now it's the total opposite. If everything i am saying sound unbelievable, you can talk to Sharon, who handles our account, or even Matt.

And one more thing, if you are quickly running out patience, with just one person, you're in the wrong business then. This is telling us how your customer service is in the future.
 

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thankz Tom for your input, in this subject matter. And i 100% agree with gallow about making this post public, this is the time and place to have the .net member place their input and thoughts about this company.

By the way Ken, it was my first post of Area51 that led to the .net member knowledge of the situation and mishap of Area51 Fab. I don't need to lie nor make up a story to make $1,000.

Again, if you are saying that Dave's staff kept such a precise documentation of their business accounts, then there shouldn't be such problem looking up my claim, on my account and seeing that the company cashed the Money Order, but never sent the merchandise to me.

P.S I'm up for the meet.
 

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i am gettin rid of the v160 and have decided to go with th r154 instead because of the cost. Currently working with GTE, who is helping me find parts.
 

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Most likely those Northern California supporters probably have no clue on the such situation between many and the "new" and "old" companies.


You make it so hard to believe that there is no affliation between the apparently "new" and "old" company.

Maybe if you try to come up with an explanation of why Dave gave all his assets over to you, which is worth over millions and millions of dollars, in which he could of sold to pay out his debts and then make some. In addition to this, he apparently gave you all his business accounts, plus all the documentations of his sales. Tell me how it doesn't seem like you took over his company?
 

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edgy said:
Well.......... all i can say is Ken Lee/ A51 Hyperformance has no real obligation to help anyone out & with the old issues it would appear, but he has offered to help me out with a small but important issue & i do appreciate that effort . i am impressed that he even bothered to offer to help if he could.

I say as long as he is trying to be stand up & take care of people going forward properly & offers good reliable customer service (which is more than SOME companies weo have used this site to develop a market for their stuff can say)...he gets a chance in my book.


But that is just me. :chill:

welll if you read closely to what he wrote, its seems to us that his customer service strategy sucks.
 
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