Look guys I am not in any way bashing on any of you but from my obsevations on this web board most of you guys seem a bit on the immature side. I mean if language and topic of discussion were good indicators then that is what I would be lead to believe. It seems as though the IS drivers on this forum are maybe a little younger at heart. Anyway, It is just an observation. On the S2000 forum that I visit frequently the owners are a little more laid back and are there to discuss the S2000 and not saying F this and F that. It sounds more like a Gangster forum than a car forum.