Right on bro, thanks for reminding me to update my sig too. You better not be in upstate NY anywhere, I want minimal competition! I'm making it a collective birthday + xmas gift, gotta do it between Aug. and Dec.Originally posted by JT:
(in Butthead-like voice)Originally posted by JT:
I hope to get mine for a b-day/xmas gift too! Although, it looks like I'll be waiting until NovemberFortunately (or is unfortunately), I live in Southern California. I'll leave the east coast competition to you, but I'll be stuck with the west coast competitionIt will be great when we can change our sig's to "owners of a 2002...!"
I'm thinking they'll be a bit more relaxed, since this is NOT supposed to be a high-volume seller. 1500 from august to december isn't too much, so I imagine dealerships will jump at the chance to sell 'em. At least that's what I hope. =)Originally posted by Michael:
Wow, Just 1,000 over invoice seems pretty optimistic. But I hope it's a deal many of us can get as soon as December. I have a feeling dealers will try to be as tough as they were last July-December when the 01's came out. Hopefully not!
Originally posted by Derekb:
Keep in mind that a pre-order is different than a special order. If you want a car built with options different from the standard build schedule you must special order your vehicle from Japan. In order for a dealer to special order a vehicle it is customary to require a non-refundable deposit because that car is built for that customer, not the way the dealer specified.
Most dealers do not want to special order vehicles because it can take as much as six months for a car to be built. If you want your car quickly and at the best price you should always order out of stock
If its a car built like all the rest a refundable deposit to hold your place in line is the norm. Usually the best way to get a new vehicle.
I have heard that the 2002 manuals are all going to be built with every option. I am not sure if that's with Nav or without.
I doubt the 18's will be significantly heavier than the 17's, although they will def. be heavier to some degree. Honestly they can't be as power robbing as a set of 17's on a Civic, so I'm not really worried about that. Besides, man, they're sexy as all get up! How could you refuse!Originally posted by LexusIS886:
Does it make sense that they'er selling the new manual with a Nav. system and 18" rims? I mean isn't the manual version suppose to be sportier? So we could probably do without the Nav. system and the power robbing 18" rims!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Originally posted by IS300GTE:
the rims are NOT standard, and they might not even be an option by the time august comes around according to the sales reps at the NY auto show. the 17's look much better IMO anyways.
Where are you getting yer information about the wheels?Originally posted by Derekb:
In reading my post I realize I need to clarify a few things. This is what I know so far:
18" wheels will not be available on the 2002 IS.
The suspension will be tuned differently on the manual than on the automatic.
Manual IS 300's for the California market will be fully loaded (whatever that means) I told them all the manuals better have the LSD option.
Other regions may and probably will vary (just as they do now)
From a financial perspective for Lexus it would be difficult to build a limited number of vehicles (manuals) with a multiple variations of option packages. They were probably trying to play it safe and build them will most or all the options.
FWIW - I am on the list for an '02 manual