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Man, recently sold my '05 350Z, '01 IS300 and just last week sold my '05 RX330. Been driving around in my brother's '01 325i, miserable. I have been talking to some dealers as well as trying to figure out when to buy and realized that:

1. I did not want to be an early adopter and go through the growing pains of 1st production year vehicle as I did on the '01 IS300 and

2. Did not want to pay MSRP on an IS350.

What that meant was that I would realistically have to wait probably 8-10 months before the prices would drop to something more reasonable. I thought about getting a beater car or may be a used Mazda3 or something along those lines, but did not want to live with one for more than 6 months.

So today I pulled the trigger and bought a '06 STi in WRB with gold BBS. I was able to get $730 over invoice, which is probably an o.k. price. I just got fed up with the damn 325i and did not want to burden my bro. for another several months till the IS350. What this means is that I probably will not be getting an IS350 until '07 !
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Very happy that I have a new ride but at the same time very sad that I will not be able to get an IS350 for another year. :(
 

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damn that sucks and is kool at the same time....

have fun in your STI!!
 

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STI isnt a bad alternative


im telling ya, i already put down my deposit in for an 06 IS350 and im starting to feel pangs of regret... i guess its probably not too late to do something about it, but im wishing i would have waited for the 07 myself. if its not too late, im thinking about selling one of my 02 IS's, getting a used GS to fill the gap, and waiting for an 07. but damn the 350 is so pretty... and itd be so nice to be the first on the block... and the thought of killing all those bimmers......


i admire you spontaneity on getting the STI. and by the way, if you live in tampa, i was the GGP IS hanging with you today... i found an 06 blue pearl and tailed it for awhile... pretty nice ride. too bad about the huge wing and the new front end. i tried my best... but ugh its just too ugly. thanks subaru tribeca for ruining everything.
 

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STI isnt a bad alternative


im telling ya, i already put down my deposit in for an 06 IS350 and im starting to feel pangs of regret... i guess its probably not too late to do something about it, but im wishing i would have waited for the 07 myself. if its not too late, im thinking about selling one of my 02 IS's, getting a used GS to fill the gap, and waiting for an 07. but damn the 350 is so pretty... and itd be so nice to be the first on the block... and the thought of killing all those bimmers......


i admire you spontaneity on getting the STI. and by the way, if you live in tampa, i was the GGP IS hanging with you today... i found an 06 blue pearl and tailed it for awhile... pretty nice ride. too bad about the huge wing and the new front end. i tried my best... but ugh its just too ugly. thanks subaru tribeca for ruining everything.

I'm in so cal, I closed the deal today but need to go pick up the Sti tomorrow, because they took delivery of it today and it has not been pdi'd yet. I asked them to just do the normal inspections and not to remove the protective plastic, that I will do it at home. I saw their existing stock of '06 WRX's and all of them had nasty swirl marks, even on the silver ones! Whoever is washing them at the dealer is really careless! If the Sti is going to be scratched, then, I will do it myself. Hopefully after a good wash, clay and wax there won't be any scratches :D.

I still hate the rear wing. Unfortunately, it is not optional. I think the evo wing is much better looking. Personally, some type of lip spoiler would be nice, but the trunk is a weird shape and probably will look bad regardless of what spoiler it has. A lot of subie owners hate the new front end because it looks somewhat like an alfa romeo, etc. I don't mind it, it looks more like the rest of the subies, similar to the legacy.

The IS350 is so much better looking and the luxury touches and Lexus detail is definitely lacking on the Sti. Regardless, I will be lurking here and on clublexus until I get the IS in '07 :D
 

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Probably very minimal. Next several months, the only thing I have planned is tint, and maybe a homelink mirror and possibly speakers only.

After about 10,000 miles, I will switch over to synthetic and maybe a CAI. Probably leave the exhaust and up/down pipes alone for a while. I am not big on modding. I know it has a lot of potential but I am happy with the 300 hp and if it can remain reliable, then I will stick to stock form.
 

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Probably very minimal. Next several months, the only thing I have planned is tint, and maybe a homelink mirror and possibly speakers only.

After about 10,000 miles, I will switch over to synthetic and maybe a CAI. Probably leave the exhaust and up/down pipes alone for a while. I am not big on modding. I know it has a lot of potential but I am happy with the 300 hp and if it can remain reliable, then I will stick to stock form.
Whatever you do... don't forget to lower the car. Subarus have known to have lots of ground clearence. All their cars look like SUVs.
 

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N1! said:
Probably very minimal. Next several months, the only thing I have planned is tint, and maybe a homelink mirror and possibly speakers only.

After about 10,000 miles, I will switch over to synthetic and maybe a CAI. Probably leave the exhaust and up/down pipes alone for a while. I am not big on modding. I know it has a lot of potential but I am happy with the 300 hp and if it can remain reliable, then I will stick to stock form.
readup on wrx modding, putting on a CAI will do more harm then good. First mod's are normally uppipe/downpipe/turbo back with ECU flash. CAI wont be needed unless you go aftermarket turbo
 

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I feel real bad for you since you had to get rid of your '05 350Z, '01 IS300 and '05 RX330. Then, THEN you had to drive around in a BMW?! ICKKK. Now, you have to wait a year for a new car???

It doesn't get much worse than that man. Excuse me, I'm going back to sleep under the viaduct, then I'm gonna go push my cart full of cans to sell so I can have dinner tonight.

Just playing with you, :) Good luck with your new car. I'm just jealous.
 

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I was reading a consumer reports article that showed a breakdown, brand by brand, of how many problems per vehicle the first model had compared to the second year, and then compared to the third.

I don't think it showed Lexus seperately, but I think it showed Toyota as a whole and the consensus was that on average the second year vehicles had less than half the number of problems that the first year had. It also showed that on some Toyota models they apparently fix very little in the third year (very little improvement, whereas on others that still have what some may deem to be an unacceptable number of issues, they continue to fix things and by the 3rd year almost all Toyota made vehicles had a very low number of problems per vehicle, if they didn't from the get-go.

Ya know, I wonder at what point in the future, car companies might not have such obvious 1st year growing pains? Like the point that they can predict problems in all the small points of a design before it even goes into mass production? Maybe even fix most of them on the computer before they even create their tester models?
 

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I was reading a consumer reports article that showed a breakdown, brand by brand, of how many problems per vehicle the first model had compared to the second year, and then compared to the third.

I don't think it showed Lexus seperately, but I think it showed Toyota as a whole and the consensus was that on average the second year vehicles had less than half the number of problems that the first year had. It also showed that on some Toyota models they apparently fix very little in the third year (very little improvement, whereas on others that still have what some may deem to be an unacceptable number of issues, they continue to fix things and by the 3rd year almost all Toyota made vehicles had a very low number of problems per vehicle, if they didn't from the get-go.

Ya know, I wonder at what point in the future, car companies might not have such obvious 1st year growing pains? Like the point that they can predict problems in all the small points of a design before it even goes into mass production? Maybe even fix most of them on the computer before they even create their tester models?

Probably always will be an issue to lesser degrees, by model and brand but I guess R&D testing can never fully replaced real word testing by owners.
 

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great idea that you held off on purchasing a first year model of either the IS350/250. not a fan of the STI but I can see some fun in it. what kind of gas mileage does it get? I'm assuming not too good.
 

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Why did they have to change the headlights?? The new ones dnt look as nice and the rims look really small on that car...
 

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N1 ..... good to hear from you. You had a collection of vehicles. Why did you sell the 350Z. Great car!!!!!! I totalled my '01 IS and bought an '04 G35 coupe. Love the car, fast out of the box.

So now that you have had the STI... how does it compare to the rest of the "sold" vehicles. And will you be adding the IS350 to the collection. Personally I'm waiting for the Z06!!!!!!
 

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great idea that you held off on purchasing a first year model of either the IS350/250. not a fan of the STI but I can see some fun in it. what kind of gas mileage does it get? I'm assuming not too good.
Well, I only have about 200 miles on the Sti, and the first tankful I only got about 270 miles out of it. I think it has a 16-17 gallon tank though. I read that the mileage will improve once the engine is broken in. Plus, I am pretty lead footed so that those not help with mileage either. I think I was averaging at least 360 miles per tankful on the IS300. Well see how fuel efficient the Sti will be but my guess is is that it will not be. I think the epa sticker said something like 18 city 24 highway which is similar to the IS300.
 

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Why did they have to change the headlights?? The new ones dnt look as nice and the rims look really small on that car...
The damn BBS rims have so many nooks and crannys that it is a pain in the ass to clean and dry! Plus the damn Brembo pads shed so much damn black dust, it like a coal burning smoke stack.
 

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N1 ..... good to hear from you. You had a collection of vehicles. Why did you sell the 350Z. Great car!!!!!! I totalled my '01 IS and bought an '04 G35 coupe. Love the car, fast out of the box.

So now that you have had the STI... how does it compare to the rest of the "sold" vehicles. And will you be adding the IS350 to the collection. Personally I'm waiting for the Z06!!!!!!
I sold the Z because the suspension and clutch were much stiffer than the sti and I just couldn't handle the commute to Burbank every day. The RX330 is like a cocoon, really soft and isolated. Actually makes for a really nice commuter.

The Sti is a fast fun ride. The clutch I felt was very easy to operate and the shifter is really nice compared to the Z. This is a car that is very easy to drive fast with out a learning curve or anything to master.

I think I am getting old though, because it is pretty damn noisy. I don't think there is any sound insulation and there are little squeaks and rattles, things that even my Z did not have. It definitely is not a Lexus.

Ideally, this would make a great second vehicle, but as a primary drive, probably not the best selection. The IS350 I am hoping is a nice compromise between performance and luxury. The Sti just has the performance portion.
 

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After about 10,000 miles, I will switch over to synthetic and maybe a CAI. .
Very nice choice on the STi. I sorta think its funny that you kinda bought the exact opposite car that you are waiting for (in terms of luxury) and then the exact opposite car in terms of a beater (thinking of a used Mazda3). I'm the exact same way with spontaneously buying cars. When we arent looking for one, or when we're looking for a specific type, we usually buy a weird niche car :)

Anyway, I was wondering about your comment about synthetic. Are you supposed to wait until 10K has been completed or can you do the switch at say, 3K (the first oil change) ? Do you or anyone else know the answer?
 
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