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Would you be upset if next year's IS300 was *consistently* able to match 0-60 in 7.1? I don't know about you, but if I had bought the IS300 and it wasn't comparable to the advertised speed, I would call it false advertising. A while ago while I was a product manager for a computer chain and a video card company made claims about its speed that they couldn't reproduce. The videocard company had to recall all their cards to save face. I am not saying that Lexus should do a recall, but it would be a good gesture for them to recognize the disparity and make an official statement.
 

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Chip, For most of us, that difference is no big deal. It wasn't like a test drove it and said, "Man, it seems sluggish." Rather, I felt like this car had some good power which makes it faster/quicker than the *majority* of cars on the road.

I was sold on the looks, the handling and it's quickness (not it's blazing straight line speed) all for a negotiated price of 32.8K.

My .02.

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Where both car un-breaking-in..

Car and Driver:
0 to 30 mph.....2.7
40 mph..........4.1
50 mph..........5.7
60 mph..........7.6
70 mph..........9.8
80 mph..........12.6
90 mph..........16.2

Road and Track:
0–30 mph: 2.5
0–40 mph: 4.0
0–50 mph: 5.5
0–60 mph: 7.5
0–70 mph: 9.6
0–80 mph: 12.3
0–90 mph: 15.7
 

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they're not going to make a public statement of any sort. they stated that the time was produced on a test car, but consequently most of the owners assume that their cars will be able to do the same and go shooting their mouths off
 

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Originally posted by cardinal_creek:
Chip, For most of us, that difference is no big deal. It wasn't like a test drove it and said, "Man, it seems sluggish." Rather, I felt like this car had some good power which makes it faster/quicker than the *majority* of cars on the road.

I was sold on the looks, the handling and it's quickness (not it's blazing straight line speed) all for a negotiated price of 32.8K.

My .02.

Once again, cardman hits it on the head. I to feel the same way. I hardly doubt that 4/10ths of a second will make a hill of beans of difference. And all that for my negotiated price of 32,300.00.
 

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Some of us here are not concerned about all out straight line performance. So any slight differences in 0-60s for me don't mean squat.

Just like my neigbor says....what a cool looking car...
 

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I for one care alot about straight line performance, and have M3/S4 envy every time I think about 0-60 > 7.5...

If I knew a way to get Lexus to offer a fix I would beg for it, but for now I think I am stuck living with my decision to get the car anyways.

The 1999 Mustang SVT Cobra owners made such a fuss that Ford recalled, and upgraded all their cars to meet the published performance numbers.

I would love it if Lexus would offer a free retrofit to improve the peformance.

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Maybe we should go on strike - no one wash their car until we get a fix...

I am sure Lexus marketing would be annoyed if all the IS300s on the road were looking dirty and "scruffy".
 

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Teg,

Although it does not concern me. What type of retrofit would they have to do to get the numbers down to the 7.1 published times?

Also, do you really believe that LEXUS would do anything if pushed? Has there been a formal investigation persued to LEXUS about this?
 

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Ford gave SVT Mustang Cobra owners free "extrude-honed" intake manifolds, and freer flowing exhaust components.

I have a feeling that Lexus doesn't value their perceived performance image quite as much as the SVT group at Ford does...
 

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Some may not concern w/ the .4 or .5 sec slower 0-60 acceleration time, but the bigger issue is promises not kept.

What's worse is Lexus continues to advertise the 7.1 time in publications and TV commercials, even after no prefessional drivers from various respected magazines or owners w/ broken-in IS3 can duplicate Lexus' claim.

That makes them a liar.
In legal term it's misrepresentation.
Such practice would bring shame to any company and its employees in their "save face" culture.

If this doesn't make your body heat to rise couple of degrees you are a much cooler guy than I am.

All I know is I'll take any of Lexus' performance claim w/ a grain of salt from now on b/c I've lost my faith in their credibility.
Catch my drift?

[This message has been edited by Benster (edited October 26, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Benster (edited October 26, 2000).]
 
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