IMO, if I were Lexus marketing guys, I would remove the GS430 from my fleet and concentrate on the IS405 if what jebzster says is correct. I say this because the GS400/430 has only had sales of 5,111 units through October and its number one competitor BMW has only had sales of 5,031 units through October. Compare this to 21,423 units for the 528/530I and 18,336 units for the GS300 and these figures tell me that the older people that can afford these prices don't car about speed because they're more mature than that. Now by deleting the GS400 you can concentrate exclusively on the IS405 and IS330. This is where you'd come off like the mob. The IS405 with optional manual 6 speed, 300+ hp, 0-60 in low to mid 5's, nav system and all the other standard features people were looking for. Think about it, you still have the GS300 which is a good seller for you in that mid size luxury segment. Then with this car, if fully loaded at 42K, you have close to M3 acceleration at 330I prices. You'll make a killing because you'll pick up sales from the people who wanted the M3 but couldn't afford it. Then your IS300 with 2002 estimated improvements with maybe a 260 hp engine hitting the segment it's already hitting. I think you'd boost sales dramatically. What do you guys think?