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06-03-2015 01:34 AM
Natalie My husband did not want to fix it....too much on the work he says. Of course its expensive! price was $1080. We own 2 Lexus vehicles that get serviced at the dealership. we are a good customer. got it discounted to $850. Its a 2010 IS with 90,000 miles.
07-17-2014 10:35 AM
kleung21 My car is currently sitting in the shop with a water pump being replaced at 125,000 km. It has developed an oil consumption issue that I will try to get them to warranty (if not, does it eventually cause engine failure due to the carbon build up?)

The oil pump at an lexus/toyota indie is going to cost $150 water pump + $350 labor + $ 50 coolant before taxes. I'm going to get them to do the serpentine belt at the same time for $60 more.

It started developing a noise about a month ago until the last week it was a constant squeeling. I thought it was just the serpentine belt which would have been much cheaper.

This is on a Canadian 2008 IS 250 AWD.

Sad to hear about the water pump failures. Hope it lasts another 4 years at least and I'll probably get rid of the car by then.


Unexpected repairs I'm afraid.
09-01-2011 11:28 AM
thuktha22 I have a 07 is250 with 73k miles on it and i need to replace my water pump too. can you help me find where i can buy one at?
05-26-2011 03:25 PM
nautox I work at a Toyota dealer. What I cant figure out is that the vehicles that use World Standard fluid, some are sealed, very tough to change the fluid and some have dipsticks which are easy to change.
We get a few 2005+ Tacoma customers who pull the wrong plug to change their oil and I have to explain to them that they need a tow truck because they drained out some of their WS tranny fluid out and its a PITA to get new fluid in!
05-10-2011 12:22 PM
kcaudle
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Originally Posted by MRSNAKE View Post
After getting recall work done the dealership told me that my water pump has a small leak and needs to be replaced. Does anyone know what is involved in replacing this and how much it would cost? Not looking to go get it done at Lexus cause they will charge a arm and a leg. Is it alot of work to change the water pump?
I just had mine in to the dealer for the fuel leak recall, oil chg and diff fluid change .... they didn't even mention or suggest any tranny fluid change. The standard diff fluid they used is a 75w90 synthetic. I have about 60,000 kilometers on it .... since its going on 6 years old now i am doing it for that reason, more than for the 64,000 Canadian maintenance schedule.

The header of this thread caught my eye though .... because when i picked it up they said they also replaced the water pump under warranty. I gave them the go ahead to replace front rotors and pads as well if needed .... they said the brakes are fine ..... so I'm fairly confident they are an honest dealer.

Anyway, are water pumps an known issue ?
05-02-2011 12:28 PM
clubfoot I can get it from my son but he's working right now, ask Andy, I think they sell Amsoil too, he would know which synthetic one to order.
04-29-2011 05:33 PM
MRSNAKE You make a good point. I don't even think I will even bother about this anymore. If it can't be changed then it can't be changed. Lets hope it does last the life of the car cause i am planning on keeping this for the long long time and i'm already at 135KM. Maybe it's time for the new IS350? HMMMMM. I will get the diff fluid changed thou. According to you it doesn't need changing and you prob right. I just want some peace of mid thou and i kinda drive it hard so i will get ams oil diff fluid soon. I just can't remember what type of diff fluid to get? like the number i mean ...
04-29-2011 11:10 AM
clubfoot I'm dreading taking my car back into have the fuel pressure sensor looked at at our favorite EPL dealership Think I'll try Northwest and see if I can get spark plugs with my CN$250.00 coupon

Wish me luck
04-28-2011 09:46 PM
Razal
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See you hit the nail right on the head right there! I mean except for winter driving,..we don't have anywhere near the number of cars or severity in climate change south of the boarder, or the traffic jams,...yep I agree with you,...could very well have been the Canadian dealerships "needing" to make more cash to cover the costs of operation and profit margins

I've read the discussions in CL,...but we have to go by what is in our manuals to maintain our warranty coverage in Canada,...unfortunately.

And that was another good point,...outside contamination, how many auto mechanics clean an area BEFORE they work in it?! Not that many,...and NOT many DIYs either

I say seal the feffin' thing, forget about it and it will last
Hey Clubfoot... then you got the schmucks like me... US car, US manual...living in Canada!!! LOL
04-28-2011 05:01 PM
clubfoot
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Originally Posted by Knightshade View Post
On the other hand the fact that it explicitly states to NOT service the exact same transmission in the manual for the US market (where more than 10 times the number of cars are sold) leaves me somewhat concerned... and thinking the Canadian Lexus dealers somehow got that put in there to be able to charge folks $150 to change 1 quart of fluid out of a 9 quart system.


Personally I think you're more likely to get outside contamination into the system trying to change 10% of the fluid than any benefit you might derive from doing so.
See you hit the nail right on the head right there! I mean except for winter driving,..we don't have anywhere near the number of cars or severity in climate change south of the boarder, or the traffic jams,...yep I agree with you,...could very well have been the Canadian dealerships "needing" to make more cash to cover the costs of operation and profit margins

I've read the discussions in CL,...but we have to go by what is in our manuals to maintain our warranty coverage in Canada,...unfortunately.

And that was another good point,...outside contamination, how many auto mechanics clean an area BEFORE they work in it?! Not that many,...and NOT many DIYs either

I say seal the feffin' thing, forget about it and it will last
04-28-2011 04:39 PM
Knightshade
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Originally Posted by clubfoot View Post
You cannot drain "all" the fluid out of any automatic transmission UNLESS you strip it down for overhaul or repair because "most" of the fluid is in the torque converter, pump, cooling lines, radiator, valve body, clutch, discs,...etc.
Unless you're willing to disconnect lines, drain the torque convert via its plug, pull the valve body,...you ain't getting nothing "changed".

That's why they came up with flush machines,...I guess.
That's sorta the point... on older cars you can use a fluid exchange machine to the lines and really change the fluid.

You can't do that here.

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Originally Posted by clubfoot View Post
This is all from my previous life overhauling Asia Warner transmissions, so hopefully we've advanced,...but I don't believe allot of stuff on the internet, I like to find out myself by asking people who know and I trust.

There was more to my conversation with Andy, but I just wanted to pass on the jist of it. Andy is a Lexus Tech with same access or better to information about our cars and he's honest. He laughed at my question because he knew it was from the forums and misinformation
Andy has access to the same info as what I posted... from TIS.

Really, this has been discussed to death, including by other Lexus techs and plenty of folks who've been working on Toyota and Lexus vehicles for decades. There's a nearly 10 page thread on CL about it, going into more technical detail if you want to read through it.


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Originally Posted by clubfoot View Post
If you can only drain, a few litres, quarts, etc,...then that is what is changeable, without pulling the transmission apart. IT costs whatever you are willing to pay for it, or do it yourself for free now that you know you can change some of it.

If anyone doesn't feel it worth doing because it's so little fluid then don't,...it's like the synthetic oil change thread,...no different. I follow the manufacture's recommendation for Canada for all my servicing,....give or take

I'm sort of torn here.

On the one hand I can't blame someone for following the mfg service schedule...

On the other hand the fact that it explicitly states to NOT service the exact same transmission in the manual for the US market (where more than 10 times the number of cars are sold) leaves me somewhat concerned... and thinking the Canadian Lexus dealers somehow got that put in there to be able to charge folks $150 to change 1 quart of fluid out of a 9 quart system.


Personally I think you're more likely to get outside contamination into the system trying to change 10% of the fluid than any benefit you might derive from doing so.
04-28-2011 12:38 PM
clubfoot HAHAHAHA,...just read the TIS,....guess nothing has changed much over the years,...still need to pull allot of shit to drain a fair bit of fluid and it's still no where near its "capacity"!
04-28-2011 12:33 PM
clubfoot You cannot drain "all" the fluid out of any automatic transmission UNLESS you strip it down for overhaul or repair because "most" of the fluid is in the torque converter, pump, cooling lines, radiator, valve body, clutch, discs,...etc.
Unless you're willing to disconnect lines, drain the torque convert via its plug, pull the valve body,...you ain't getting nothing "changed".

That's why they came up with flush machines,...I guess.

Maybe, just maybe that's why Lexus/Toyota "sealed" the transmission, because they know that not allot of fluid gets "changed" with a drain pan and a filter change,....so why bother. Just use the best quality fluid they could come up with, keep the trans cool, shift it firm, and it should last the "life" of the car.

This is all from my previous life overhauling Asia Warner transmissions, so hopefully we've advanced,...but I don't believe allot of stuff on the internet, I like to find out myself by asking people who know and I trust.

There was more to my conversation with Andy, but I just wanted to pass on the jist of it. Andy is a Lexus Tech with same access or better to information about our cars and he's honest. He laughed at my question because he knew it was from the forums and misinformation

If you can only drain, a few litres, quarts, etc,...then that is what is changeable, without pulling the transmission apart. IT costs whatever you are willing to pay for it, or do it yourself for free now that you know you can change some of it.

If anyone doesn't feel it worth doing because it's so little fluid then don't,...it's like the synthetic oil change thread,...no different. I follow the manufacture's recommendation for Canada for all my servicing,....give or take
04-27-2011 11:36 AM
Razal Why not try calling Lexus Canada or better yet, see if you can get something in writing.

I'm perplexed by the apparent difference in manuals. IF both cars are built the same in respect of the transmission, one of the manuals is obviously wrong and it looks like that might be the Canadian one.

Sounds like a potential class action lawsuit against Lexus Canada for recommending unnecessary (maybe more importantly - impossible) service.
04-27-2011 11:22 AM
MRSNAKE I just called another dealership and they told me they can get out 1.7-1.8 litres out. I am starting to agree with you about all this. I am scared that my tranny will blow or something so how much sense does it make to do the drain and fill 5 times in a row once every month?
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