Now that we know what it isn't, let's explore the significance of the Mark X. It sits on the exact same 112.2" wheelbase as the upcoming 3rd-generation Lexus GS, but is fractionally shorter (186.2" vs 189.8" for the GS), narrower (69.9" vs 71.7" for the GS) and taller (56.5" vs 56.1 " for the GS). My initial suspicions that the Mark X would replace the JDM Toyota Mark II appear to be correct, since the Mark II no longer appears on Toyota's Japanese website. The engine choices are the new 4GR-FSE 2.5-liter V6 and the 3GR-FSE 3-liter V6, just like in the JDM Toyota Crown Royal (and, most likely, the next Lexus IS). The Mark X is then most likely an alternative to the Toyota Crown Royal for one of Japan's 5 Toyota dealer networks that doesn't sell that model. It could also be seen as filling the narrow gap between the Lexus IS and GS, since it offers the upcoming IS engine choices in a GS-sized car (note that the V8 is NOT available in the GS-sized Mark X).
Our thanks to .NET Member Flipside909 for bringing this significant new Toyota model to our attention. For discussion and additional pictures of the Mark X, check out these threads in General Discussion and The Garage. The GD thread also includes a link to Toyota's Japanese website.
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Family sedan? true-true
got the beauty?
2004 IS300 E-SHIFT
Looks to me that one distinct design feature of the IS (Altezza) is the hood bulge. Reminds of the Jag nose of past, infers power, etc...
The Mark X would look much more in the IS vein with it.
Any designer comments?
2004 IS300 E-SHIFT
1. My understanding is that the Lexus design center is off limits to Toyota designers. You cannot expect to get accurate ideas regarding future Lexus models by viewing the Toyota.jp web pages (unless they are talking specifically about Lexus). Toyota is planning to sell the next generation Lexus sedans in Japan under the Lexus banner. Lexus vehicles will no longer be re- badged JDM Toyotas.
2. Almost every Toyota sold in Japan can be had with a four wheel drive option.
3. They did sell the Mark II in the US. Like the IS and GS, it was a rear-wheel drive sedan that used a Supra in-line 6 Engine without the turbo option. In the US it was called the Cressida and was replaced with the Avalon (which was sold as the Pronard in Japan).
I am sure most of you know that the Avalon/Pronard is not an evolution of the Cressida. It is a front wheel drive V6 sharing the same platform as the Camry and the Windom/ES.
The Mark II platform evolved a branch in Japan called the Cresta which later became the Verossa. The Cresta continued the old boxy styling of the older Mark II/Cressida. The Cresta and Verossa were never sold in the US and are no longer sold in Japan.
The Mark II/Cressida really is the great grandmother of the GS300 and IS300.
Here is a great link with a history of the Cressida: http://cressida.christurner.net/history/
It now looks like the Mark II is evolving into the Mark X. They are abondoning the I6 in favor of the new V6 and appropriatly renaming the vehicle. I am sad to see the I6 go; I always admired its smooth quiet performace.
Here is a nice history of the M serries engine which evolved into the JZ:
Finally, I do own a 1987 Cressida (aka Mark II). I liked driving a large sedan with a Supra engine. I enjoy my new SportCross even more, a small wagon with a Supra engine.
Let me know if you are interested in the Cressida --I will sell her soon. She will be missed.
Altezza Gita: "Height at the Song of God"
2004 IS300 SportCross
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What are the expected, or feared, performance differences between the Lexus I6 and the new V6?
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