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50,000 DOLLARS SHOULD GET YOU A CAR THAT DOES WHAT YOU WANT IT TO
You can't be serious, right?? Is that what it costs in the US? In Europe (Belgium to be specific), the most basic IS F costs 73 610 Ä, or 100 000 USD.


Glad you were able to get it fixed. This is a problem I have all the time with cars: I think things are wrong (e.g. I think my IS 220d pulls to the right as well, and I also think the engine makes a weird sound sometimes), but it's almost impossible to prove to your garage that you're correct.
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You can't be serious, right?? Is that what it costs in the US?
That's pretty close, especially if you're talking about a car that is late in its model year or even a year behind. My '09 has most options and I got it in December for not much more than $50K. I think cars are always cheaper in the US, at least low production models.

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That's pretty close, especially if you're talking about a car that is late in its model year or even a year behind. My '09 has most options and I got it in December for not much more than $50K. I think cars are always cheaper in the US, at least low production models.
Yeah, I knew cars are quite a bit cheaper in the US, but not around 50%, that's absurd.

What do you mean by "late in its model year"? (I've never entirely gotten the concept of a model year in cars, it seems like the model year a car is part of isn't always the same year it was released.)

And about "a year behind", most of the time it takes at the very least 3 years for a new model, so you mean that the price drops each year, until a new model is released? (I use leasing company cars, I don't buy them, so I'm not very informed about those things, as you can see )
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Yeah, I knew cars are quite a bit cheaper in the US, but not around 50%, that's absurd.

What do you mean by "late in its model year"? (I've never entirely gotten the concept of a model year in cars, it seems like the model year a car is part of isn't always the same year it was released.)

And about "a year behind", most of the time it takes at the very least 3 years for a new model, so you mean that the price drops each year, until a new model is released? (I use leasing company cars, I don't buy them, so I'm not very informed about those things, as you can see )

Each years models typically come out in the fall prior... for example the 2008 model IS350 I own was first on showroom floors in late September of 2007.

The 2009 models appeared late September/early Oct of 2008.

And so on.

So if you went into a showroom in, say, August of 2008, the 2009 models would be only a month or so from arriving... thus they'll offer better deals on the remaining 2008 models to try and clear them out.

Because it's usually tough to sell a "new" 2008 model when you have new 2009 models sitting right next to them.
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Because it's usually tough to sell a "new" 2008 model when you have new 2009 models sitting right next to them.
Of course that's also the time for the best deals on the older year model! Even IF it has a slight pull to the right!
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Anyone else dealing with the pull to the right?
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You can't be serious, right?? Is that what it costs in the US? In Europe (Belgium to be specific), the most basic IS F costs 73 610 €, or 100 000 USD.


Glad you were able to get it fixed. This is a problem I have all the time with cars: I think things are wrong (e.g. I think my IS 220d pulls to the right as well, and I also think the engine makes a weird sound sometimes), but it's almost impossible to prove to your garage that you're correct.
Ever hear of VAT? or other taxes? Its quite common in Europe for prices to be expressed with tax. Like in the UK when they tell you the price of the car is £50,000 that is your out the door after tax price....same in restaurants. In socialist Europe...THEY TAX YOU. Its a great way to keep the people from knowing how much tax their ACTUALLY paying. Give we have a lot of hidden taxes here a MAJORITY of tax is applied at the time of sale with "Sales Tax" which usually ranges between 4-9% of the sale.

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Anyone else dealing with the pull to the right?
i actually had the dealership work on this issue
they said they did the best they could but it STILL pulls to the right...


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Isn't anyone getting alignment printouts from the dealer after the work is done? I fought the drift to the right for a year now and after 6 trips to the dealer the car drives perfect.

Short story is: Subframe was not centered (from factory) and needed to be adjusted. Once the subframe was centered the front camber and caster fell into place. Car is great now.

Theses cars are very sensitive to left/right variation in camber and caster. If you are unsatisfied, call Lexus Corporate and have a factory field technician look at it. This will piss off your dealer cause it gets them in trouble, but so what, you want your car right. Make sure to have them shift the subframe, it only takes 1.5 - 2.0 mm to fix things.

Good Luck, be patient.
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I have the same problem. what parts need to be change. Please help . 2009 Is 250 AWD

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Totally different car; exact same problem: Lexus RX400 from 2006. Already 5x (3D) aligned, new tires blahblah but still pulling to the right. No Lexus garage in our country doesn't know what to do any more. It's driving me (and Lexus) crazy.

The car:

- never damaged, never had accident
- no damage on suspension
- never hit a curb
- no damage on the rims
- new tires (drove about 5000 miles now)
- 75.000 miles total

I know this topic is about an IS-F, but will affect this info my RX400 too?

I'm desperate

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