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Brake Fade - 06 IS250

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I have an 06 IS250 with 31 xxx miles on it.

I took it in for a my 30 000 mile service and recall for the master cylinder where they replaced a seal.

Since then my brake peddle fades to the floor, it does stop but scares the crap outta me sometimes esp on the highway. I took it back last week they said they would bleed the brakes once again and it should be fine, well it is not still have the same issue. The brakes were great before they did the recall.

The work was performed at Open Road Port Moody Lexus in BC Canada. The car is out of warranty but it was perfectly fine before the recall was performed. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello Everyone,

I have an 06 IS250 with 31 xxx miles on it.

I took it in for a my 30 000 mile service and recall for the master cylinder where they replaced a seal.

Since then my brake peddle fades to the floor, it does stop but scares the crap outta me sometimes esp on the highway. I took it back last week they said they would bleed the brakes once again and it should be fine, well it is not still have the same issue. The brakes were great before they did the recall.

The work was performed at Open Road Port Moody Lexus in BC Canada. The car is out of warranty but it was perfectly fine before the recall was performed. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

They didn't bleed the brakes properly (or they screwed something up on the master cylinder work)

What you describe (brake pedal sinks to floor) is virtually a textbook description of air in the brake lines.


What you describe is not, at all, brake fade... which refers to a loss of stopping power after repeated/extended use of the brakes due to brake parts overheating.... and which you ought never experience in normal driving.


Take it back, tell them you'll be keeping their loaner car until they can return it to you with the brakes working properly (presumably the same as the loaner and all the other cars on their lot.)
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They didn't bleed the brakes properly (or they screwed something up on the master cylinder work)

What you describe (brake pedal sinks to floor) is virtually a textbook description of air in the brake lines.


What you describe is not, at all, brake fade... which refers to a loss of stopping power after repeated/extended use of the brakes due to brake parts overheating.... and which you ought never experience in normal driving.


Take it back, tell them you'll be keeping their loaner car until they can return it to you with the brakes working properly (presumably the same as the loaner and all the other cars on their lot.)
Thanks Knightshade, I just booked it again, lets what they come up with...I sure hope they don't charge me anything
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Thanks Knightshade, I just booked it again, lets what they come up with...I sure hope they don't charge me anything
I certainly wouldn't pay them anything... they screwed it up during a recall, they fix it.

Lexus corporate would be my next step if the dealer was unable to resolve properly, and for free, with a free loaner in the meantime.
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It is booked in for this weekend, the advisor said it could be the brake booster??? If it is the brake booster it only lasted 31000 miles and that would not make me a happy customer especially if they try to make me pay
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Went to Lexus the other day, RR caliper is siezed. The sliders are sieized, needs a new caliper, $512.00 total after taxes....I have never had a seized caliper esp not at 31000 miles.
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Went to Lexus the other day, RR caliper is siezed. The sliders are sieized, needs a new caliper, $512.00 total after taxes....I have never had a seized caliper esp not at 31000 miles.
There's a recall (on US models anyway) for exactly that issue so I would've expected this to be fixed free

The campaign was SSC-9LB

(and even if not covered the parts should be massively cheaper from Sewell or one of the other dealer vendors compared to what your local dealer is asking)
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There's a recall (on US models anyway) for exactly that issue so I would've expected this to be fixed free

The campaign was SSC-9LB

(and even if not covered the parts should be massively cheaper from Sewell or one of the other dealer vendors compared to what your local dealer is asking)
You are awesome Knightshade, the IS250 is a US model.

I just called my dealer in Vancouver and he said that the TSB had already been completed in 09 and te caliper was not siezed them they just replaced the boot.

He said they replaced the boot again becuase it has a "nik" on it on Tuesday when they checked it.

He said I am SOL becuase the TSB was already completed ...FML

BUT...the recall has not been completed according to the US database...

I just spoke with lexus Canada - they have opened a case to look into this, since the TSB was performed a year ago

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You are awesome Knightshade, the IS250 is a US model.

I just called my dealer in Vancouver and he said that the TSB had already been completed in 09 and te caliper was not siezed them they just replaced the boot.

He said they replaced the boot again becuase it has a "nik" on it on Tuesday when they checked it.

He said I am SOL becuase the TSB was already completed ...FML

BUT...the recall has not been completed according to the US database...

I just spoke with lexus Canada - they have opened a case to look into this, since the TSB was performed a year ago
Stephanie from Lexus Canada just called me, they have denied my claim due to the fact that the campaign was performed in 1.5 yrs ago and and they will honor it. I am amazed that Lexus is not standing by their product, especially since the same rubber boot they recalled had failed in less than 7000 miles. I have always stood behind toyota and even after all the massive recalls still stood behind them and argued they stand behind their product, but now my opinion has completely changed I would and will not ever recommend a Toyota product to anyone.

Shocks me that a rubber boot that was called in for a recall 2 years ago is replaced with another faulty boot that didnt even alst 7000 miles and Lexus will not stand behind their product.

I should just go buy a Ford LOL
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Stephanie from Lexus Canada just called me, they have denied my claim due to the fact that the campaign was performed in 1.5 yrs ago and and they will honor it. I am amazed that Lexus is not standing by their product, especially since the same rubber boot they recalled had failed in less than 7000 miles. I have always stood behind toyota and even after all the massive recalls still stood behind them and argued they stand behind their product, but now my opinion has completely changed I would and will not ever recommend a Toyota product to anyone.

Shocks me that a rubber boot that was called in for a recall 2 years ago is replaced with another faulty boot that didnt even alst 7000 miles and Lexus will not stand behind their product.

I should just go buy a Ford LOL
Damn, that sucks man

I have to say, of any bad things I've heard regarding Lexus service, most of em have come out of Lexus in Canada... (and doubly so for cars that were originally US cars).

I'd obviously advise you to find a good NON-dealership brake shop to fix this, I'd expect it to be a lot cheaper at any local brake shop and I wouldn't want to give the dealership guys any of my $ after your experience.
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Damn, that sucks man

I have to say, of any bad things I've heard regarding Lexus service, most of em have come out of Lexus in Canada... (and doubly so for cars that were originally US cars).

I'd obviously advise you to find a good NON-dealership brake shop to fix this, I'd expect it to be a lot cheaper at any local brake shop and I wouldn't want to give the dealership guys any of my $ after your experience.
Thanks for the help though Knightshade.

The caliper is 250-300 everywhere I look hahah, might be cheaper to just get it done from Lexus. I might save a but I will be pricing it out today.

Know of any good sites I could order the caliper from?
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